BobWill Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Dallas Paleontological Society got the OK to do some group "casual Collecting" on Corps of Engineers land at Lake Texoma today (12th). I found this mouth plate in the Duck Creek Formation which is Lower Cretaceous. I'll post more pictures after I get it out of the matrix. I'm told most of the teeth are below the exposed surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Wow, Bob! What an interesting find; looking forward to more images. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Very Cool find! Good luck with the prep, Bob! Thanks for posting it. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshunter Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Bob, Very interesting find, one never knows what new finds will be discovered Tom Grow Old Kicking And Screaming !!"Don't Tread On Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Also found this nice 11mm urchin. Goniophorus sp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Interesting finds, Bob. I can't wait to see more of your fish mouth plate. I like the color on your urchin. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Oooooooooo! That fish plate looks like it has potential! And the urchin is a nice by-product. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm getting some of the tooth plate uncovered. I'm not sure about going further with my primitive tools, especially where I don't know what I'm looking at, like here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I wonder if a chemical prep would work for this. That may be the way to go. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Good point Charlie. I thought of asking someone local who could advise hands-on in stead of from a picture. I think I'll stop at this point since I haven't broken anything yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyssa Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Great finds! How big is the plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 It's 35mm. Can't believe I forgot to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 Here are close-ups of some unusual (to me) details in the tooth plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Bob, I'm fascinated by this find. You wouldn't hurt my feelings if you posted larger image files. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 How's this John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 How's this John. Ooooo, much better! Thanks, Bob. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I think it's pretty rare to find the teeth in those tooth plates I find a few pieces of Plethodid plates around here in Cretaceous deposits, but I've never found one in matrix like that. Ramo 1 For one species to mourn the death of another is a new thing under the sun. -Aldo Leopold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 I got this suggestion from Mark Mckinzie today regarding the circle/dot features in the close-ups. This is probably the outside surface with the teeth underneath. Now I'm very tempted to do some more prep to uncover the rest of this thing. "Those structures in the teeth of the bony jaw/vomerine(?) plate I have seen in other pycnodont and phyllodont jaws at their attachment bases with the jaw. They are probably the nerve canals or blood vessel openings at the “root” of the teeth." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Thanks for the update, Bob! Very cool. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I wonder if a chemical prep would work for this. That may be the way to go. I have had good luck prepping out pycnodont teeth and plate fragments from the Kamp Ranch using vinegar. It doesn't seem to erode the tooth structure. Thanks, Kris Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Thanks Kris, I'll give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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