john h dalton Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Found in norther Wyoming... Does anyone know what kind of plant this came from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Not a rose but may be a leaf bud. What is the age- formation? Tony Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Tough to tell if it is fossil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 A close up of what would be the stem attachment would help to confirm or reject the bud theory. I'm in the doubters camp now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I'm in the non fossil camp at the moment. Northern Wyoming is a big area. Any idea what county it may have been found in? I resized and brightened your pics. Still not enough detail to tell. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Interesting object... Near the top left of the first image, and the bottom left of the second, is a circular feature that might be a clue as to what it is. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john h dalton Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 It was found in the Morrison formation and it is definitely a fossil and i'm sure its some kind of bud just not sure of what kind of plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john h dalton Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 We believe its a Juniper bud, just cant find any pictures or anything like it anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 By "bud" do You mean a leaf bud or a flower bud? Or do You mean a seed cone? It is to large for most leaf buds, and junipers do not have flowers. Confusedly Yours, Tony Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john h dalton Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 To Rockwood; it was found right here in Washakie county Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john h dalton Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 Ynot we were just told by some local rock experts that it is probably from a juniper. Steinocaulus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Looks relatively close to a conifer seed cone, something like Araucaria or Pararaucaria,maybe. Edit: I know what you meant to say : Juniper seed pod - Steinerocaulis sp., but the specimen in question looks to match one of the Bahuninia species of the Morrison FM. Try to look up for B. joannei, B. provoensis, B. bassii, B. scottii. Reference: SUMMARY LIST OF LATE JURASSIC PLANTS, WESTERN INTERIOR U.S. & SW CANADA - Fred Peterson http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/~jparrish/Morrison_plants.pdf http://www.yamadori-bonsai.info/WalkerLarry.html Edited November 21, 2015 by abyssunder 2 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 That is pretty amazing find for the Morrison Fm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 My first impression was a fish Tilly bone. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Doubtful on the tilly bone. Other than lungfish teeth, there are only a few fish fossils known from the Morrison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Well, the new pics. bring me closer to the believers camp. I can imagine that being a point of abscission. I can't get any of them to zoom in for a really good look though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rockwood Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Can you upload a larger file ? This sort of extraordinary object requires evidence to match. I should note that I'm not the expert to evaluate it. Just getting the leg work done and waiting for one to weigh in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john h dalton Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Okay, this thing is 35 mm long and is 19 mm wide It weighs 16.2 grams. It was found in the Morrison formation in Washakie county Wyoming. I hope that helps and these pictures are better. Thanks for all your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Great images; I can now observe that it does not have anything like a repeating pattern of scales, such as a cone would show. Also, there appears to be something sticklike emerging at an angle, suggestively on a line with the circular structure in the center of the fat end: This makes me think of a twig surrounded by a gall growth. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Much better pix. It is still a mystery to me. Are you anywhere near Casper, or if you ever come to Casper bring it in to us at the Tate Museum. We would love to have a look at this... and no we have no right to confiscate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I'm wondering why the provided links are not functioning.I edit again : http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/~jparrish/Morrison_plants.pdfhttp://www.yamadori-bonsai.info/WalkerLarry.html " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I'm wondering why the provided links are not functioning. I edit again : http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/~jparrish/Morrison_plants.pdf http://www.yamadori-bonsai.info/WalkerLarry.html From your second link: A compelling comparison! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 There are not too much information on the web related to this subject, but I find some description of Cycadophyta Behuninia joannei.FRUITING ORGANS FROM THE MORRISON FORMATION OF UTAH, U.S.A. - MARJORIE E. J. CHANDLER https://www.mediafire.com/?pcp3crb4i0iedpiexpert : 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 until seeing Abyssunder's references I was going to suggest a coprolite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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