deutscheben Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Found this while hiking along the Little Vermilion River in East Central Illinois, it was inside a nodule that had split naturally. It didn't match up with anything in the various books on Pennsylvanian plant fossils I have, can anyone identify it? it was on state land, so I left it there, but I'm quite curious about what it is. The exposure at this site is, I believe, the Energy Shale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I don't recognize it but have you considered crinoid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Any idea on the size of the item? Was this found in Lasalle County? Looks like the geology there is pretty diverse. Looks like some Ordovician as well as Pennsylvanian exposures there. ( I don't see any "Energy Shale" listed there. ) Was it dug out of an exposure, ...or lying loose? So far, I think BobWill may be on the right track. Regards, Edited November 24, 2015 by Fossildude19 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deutscheben Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Thanks for responding- to answer your questions: The exposed "bump" was about 1 inch long. This was found in Vermilion County- the Energy Shale is found above the Herrin Coal and is similar to the Francis Creek Shale of Mazon Creek fame, producing sideritic concretions containing primarily plants, but also insects and other terrestrial and freshwater fauna. This nodule was lying loose on the riverbank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 It appears to be a section of Calamites. The characteristic features are more apparent after color inversion and reorienting the image. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocksdale Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I see the Calamites too. Is the branch partly bent so it almost looks like it goes back into the rock on the left side. 1 Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.–Carl Sagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deutscheben Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Hmm, it seemed more of a club-like "end" to me- I don't think it bent back into the concretion. But it does otherwise resemble Calamites, I can see that now. Could it be the end of a branch segment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) Or a rhizome tip. Second pic on this page: http://botanyprofessor.blogspot.co.uk/2012_03_01_archive.html Edited November 25, 2015 by TqB Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 If anything, the subterranean parts of Calamites bore only root-scars, which are much smaller and do not touch each other laterally (are quite widely spaced, in fact). So, if this would indeed be a Calamites fragment (not convinced yet, though it clearly shows some resemblance), then the ring-shaped structure must represent a whorl of branch-scars. This basically rules out rhizome tip as an option and, as such, the "club-like end" remains a puzzle to me. Any ideas on what the structure around the "Calamites" represents? The rock fractured in a peculiar pattern, if you ask me, almost like it is also a part of the structure, somehow... 1 Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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