DE&i Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Hi everyone, Has anyone had any experience using a Record Power Engraver for fossil preparation please. Regards.....D&E&i The only certainty with fossil hunting is the uncertainty. https://lnk.bio/Darren.Withers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I have tested and tried these. From my experience, such a tool is not suitable for fossil preparation. Yes, they are cheap, but that is more or less their only advantage. - These are no subtle tools, and will knock the shell of a trilobite before you can say 'total destruction'. - They are noisy - You're holding a vibrating electric motor. This makes any fine work impossible and gives your joints and muscles a constant beating. It's an ergonomic nightmare - They are not versatile If you're serious about fossil preparation, set up a simple compressed air system. A basic setup includes a compressor (which can, admittedly, also be noisy), piping, a moisture remover with manometer, and an airscribe. Although it can be done on a tight budget, this will cost a bit more than an electric engraver, but the upside is that you will actually use it. 1 Paleo database, information and community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pocock Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Hi Darren, Yes I have one and have used it alongside my air pen, I have found it useful for some of the fine detail work on low setting, when it is on high it is quite powerful and a bit noisy, however the fine point that came with it is very good and you can get a diamond tipped bit as well. If you use it for more than about 15 Mins it can make your hand feel a bit sore especially your fingers as it is back heavy. All in all I have replaced my Dremil engraver with this one and would not change it back. Hope this helps Regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pocock Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Hi Fred, I have a compressor and the set up that you have described however it was considerably more expensive than the electric engraver (engraver £35) air pen set up £275. I think that as a supplement to the air pen it is useful and as I did not have the space and money for the air pen to start with the engraver worked well for me. I think that each person will have pros and cons for each tool or piece of equipment that they use, and the only way to see if it if right for you is to try it out (as long as you can afford to pay for something that you may not use) Regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koss1959 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I used one for a bit. It does work well, but as noted, it is not comfortable. It is heavy, noisy and vibrates a lot, all of which makes your hand hurt. It doesn't blow the dust away from the specimen either, so you have to stop and blow the dust away yourself. The thing that put me off the most though, was it was very slow. Prep is a slow thing anyway, but this was ridiculous. Even on the highest power it was slow. If a pneumatic setup isn't practical for you, it's a good alternative. However, make sure you're taking regular breaks. Etsy shop for Dinosaur Art: https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/IzzyBeeCreates?ref=seller-platform-mcnav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE&i Posted April 14, 2016 Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 Thank you everyone as there's the usual interesting valid points one can expect here on TFF. I'm gathering my notes together and shall continue my plans. Thank you. Regards.....D&E&i The only certainty with fossil hunting is the uncertainty. https://lnk.bio/Darren.Withers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Hi Darren Wei, a guy in China makes different tips for the engraver, I've had a few conversations with him, he's a friendly guy. I've ordered some of his tips. Although not on his website he also makes a chisel tip. This is his website http://stingertools.com Cheers John Edited May 2, 2016 by JohnBrewer John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pocock Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Thanks for the post John, i like the sound of the chisel tip I will have a look at getting some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Dont waste your money Darren...Put it towards a compressor and HD airpen.... Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Dont waste your money Darren...Put it towards a compressor and HD airpen.... I'm not sure it's 'wasting' money Steve. Of course an air pen and compressor would be ideal. Surely if you're going to do the odd bit now and again/looking to start out in a new hobby/have limited funds spending several £100's is 'wasting' money? At the moment I can't justify a new air powered set up and although I keep looking, nothing comes up on eBay. Cheers John John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I'm not sure it's 'wasting' money Steve. Of course an air pen and compressor would be ideal. Surely if you're going to do the odd bit now and again/looking to start out in a new hobby/have limited funds spending several £100's is 'wasting' money? At the moment I can't justify a new air powered set up and although I keep looking, nothing comes up on eBay. Cheers John I agree with John. Not all of us do all that much prepping, and not all of us are blessed with deep pockets. As an entry level tool, ...as long as you are aware of the limitations of it, and the pros and cons, I think it is a perfectly acceptable alternative. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pocock Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Hi All I have both Air and Electric engravers and often use them in tandem especially when I get to the very fine details on smaller fossils the electric one works well. Regards Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) Consider an ElectroStylus. The ergonomics are far, far better than the pictured instrument's design (top heavy, not balanced; which is shared with the Dremel I own). Using an ElecrtoStylus will not wreck your hand as quickly; although continuous prolonged use of any vibrating instrument should be avoided. Edit: Here is a photo of an ElectroStylus. As you can see the pencil shape is very different from the other engraver's design. I have two of these as well as a Dremel. I find them a low cost alternative to air powered equipment. Of course it is axiomatic; you get what you pay for. Edited May 4, 2016 by snolly50 2 Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 If your getting fossils professionally prepped the cost of the equipment plus, soon mounts up in prep costs when your having a few specimens done.... The aro pen is far more suitable for fine work than the unbalanced electric engraver.... I started prepping Whitby fossils with an electric engraver... It didnt last long... Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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