gremlinshow Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 After a long day hunting on the Isle of Sheppey I made it home with a few interesting little finds. Some small bird bones and possibly a cuttlefish beak. Can anyone confirm if it is please. Pictures to follow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremlinshow Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 Small bunch of bird bones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremlinshow Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 Crushed nautilus.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Wizard Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Small bunch of bird bones... Hi You've got some interesting bones there. Are they from a bird? Cheers Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Hi You've got some interesting bones there. Are they from a bird? Cheers Nick Indeed they are "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremlinshow Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thanks Auspex for confirming that they are bird bones. I thought they were. Just a shame I couldn't find any more. I dug the ones pictured from a clay slip after spotting the vert. Spent almost half hour getting covered in mud and clay trying to find more. Any ideas whether my I.d of the cuttlefish beak is correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The first image is definitely not a cephalopod beak. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 That many bird bones in one outing??!! Wow. I have no ever seen bird bones from Sheppey free of matrix... could these be modern bones? Hate to be the skeptic, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremlinshow Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 I was as surprised as you are. However I did have to dig them out from the clay so I would be surprised if they are modern. Is there anyway I can test to be sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremlinshow Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 The first image is definitely not a cephalopod beak. Thanks for clearing this one up for me. I wasnt sure as I have only recently even found out they could be found on Sheppey and have only seen a couple of images of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 That many bird bones in one outing??!! Wow. I have no ever seen bird bones from Sheppey free of matrix... could these be modern bones? Hate to be the skeptic, but... I was as surprised as you are. However I did have to dig them out from the clay so I would be surprised if they are modern. Is there anyway I can test to be sure? Their appearance is completely consistent with some that I have from there: the clay preserves them well. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 #1 looks like Belosepia or some such. It's an internal part though not a beak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremlinshow Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 #1 looks like Belosepia or some such. It's an internal part though not a beak. Ah now that looks like the pictures I have seen before and is what made me pick it up in the first place. There was another piece to it but being the clumsy oaf that I am I dropped it and couldnt find it again. D'oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 #1 looks like Belosepia or some such. It's an internal part though not a beak. It is similar in general shape, but unlike any I've seen or collected. I don't think it is Belosepia. 1 The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 That's where the "looks like" and "some such" comes in. I agree that most I have collected were a clearish yellow calcite but recall some with a frosted exterior rind also. If the specimen is bilaterally symmetrical I'd be more confident that it isn't just a suggestively shaped piece of limestone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Nice finds... well done.... I always wanted a nautilus beak.... I havent found one yet.... Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 So it is not a beak-- the rest of the things You found are trip makers of their own right!! Nice. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members gremlin Posted May 3, 2016 New Members Share Posted May 3, 2016 Thanks for all you replies, I will keep searching for more interesting bits and pieces. I found a few more today, tried a different site on the island on the southern side of the island where the cliffs are much smaller and there is an estuary instead of the sea, so not as much clay exposed and generally less fossils to be found, but I did not leave empty handed! Far from it! Slightly strange picking up familiar items but in different colours, most of the teeth I collected were much lighter in colour or even white and also found a nautilus chamber I yellow! To add to the finds was a nice pair of lobster claws which im hoping will prep out nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members gremlin Posted May 3, 2016 New Members Share Posted May 3, 2016 Nautilus chamber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members gremlin Posted May 3, 2016 New Members Share Posted May 3, 2016 Lobster claws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peat Burns Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Nice finds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members gremlin Posted May 5, 2016 New Members Share Posted May 5, 2016 Thanks very much. Hopefully I will get chance to go out hunting again tomorrow after work if the weather is good and if I find anything else interesting I will post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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