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Identification Of Gifts


Ryohei

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Hi

I'm hoping somone can help with the identification of some of these items.

The first two items were gifts purchased by my daughter in a gift shop somewhere in the North of Scotland. The polished ovoid was labelled as a "Nautiloid" (1 view), and the other as an "Ammonite" (2 views). I think I might just about have guessed the latter, but I have no idea what species it might be. Also, I have no clue as to the geographical origin of these items.

In the case of the third item (2 views given) I can tell you that this came out of shale from the Bishop Hill Quarry in Scotland that I have mentioned in another thread - it is rock from the Lower Carboniferous Group which comes into the Visean stage(= Mid-Mississippian I think). To me it looks like some kind of immature mollusc. Sorry the pics aren't too wonderful but it was the best I could do.

Any comments, suggestions etc as to the identification and dating of these items would be most welcome.

Thanks

Alan

p.s. Can anyone recommend either a website or a book (preferably UK-based) that can help with the identification of such items?

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As I am capable of picking only the low-hanging fruit, allow me to suggest that the polished specimen came from Morocco. It is an orthoconic cephalopod.

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Funny you should say that, Auspex. wass thought it was an Orthoceras from Morocco, too. I guess I'll buy that.

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As I am capable of picking only the low-hanging fruit, allow me to suggest that the polished specimen came from Morocco. It is an orthoconic cephalopod.

yeah, yeah, he's right, he's right, and if it was a lazy one and you had its picture as your avatar, it'd be an iconic laconic orthoconic cephalopod.

(and before you start sayin' how bad that was, bear in mind that i was trying to figure out how to use "ionic" and "hydroponic" in there but punted.)

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I think that ammonite is from Madagascar and it is jurassic and its genus is probably Perisphinctes or Orthosphinctes?

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I agree with the above post on the ammonite. This is a Perisphinctes from the Upper Jurrasic of Madagascar.

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Just a wild stab in the dark on the third piece.... Horn Coral? Looks a little like some that I've seen in Devonian strata, but I know you said it came from the Carboniferous.

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I think that ammonite is from Madagascar and it is jurassic and its genus is probably Perisphinctes or Orthosphinctes?

i think so about the Ammonite, but not too old.. :)

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@ Shamalama: It's definitely Early-ish carboniferous. When I get a bit more time I'll retry the pic and see if I can make it any better. Trouble is, the specimen is so dang tiny...............

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