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What this exactly is? (Dinosaur bone from Kem Kem)


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I traded this piece in this forum few months ago, and i heard this is spinosaurus's neural spine. After i received this I searching and trying to match this bones with spinosaurus's neural spine and sail bone. They looks pretty similar with this piece but not perfect matched. So, I can't sure what is this bone piece is.. I hope i can identify this clearly.

Do you have any idea of this pieces? 

 

+I feel really embarrassing about i wrote 'Kam Kam' on title... now i edit that. I feel i need to more study again:blush:

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It's almost 30cm long.

 

And here is more details.

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Thanks for your help.

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The cross section is not symetrical. This makes me think that it is probably not a neural spine but some other flat bone. E.g. part of a rib close to the proximal end or a part of the scapula.

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23 minutes ago, Flx said:

The cross section is not symetrical. This makes me think that it is probably not a neural spine but some other flat bone. E.g. part of a rib close to the proximal end or a part of the scapula.

Thanks! I going to search about dinosaur rib bone and scapula fossils. I think it's really hard to find out this bone is which dinosaur's bone...thanks for your help.

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1 hour ago, Rockwood said:

The outside looks like bone, but could we get a better look at an end ? That looks more suspicious to me.

Where is you exactely mean? Did you mean it's section?

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26 minutes ago, cheney416 said:

Where is you exactely mean? Did you mean it's section?

Transection yes. 

A look for cancelous bone might be helpful.

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2 minutes ago, Troodon said:

Looks to me to be the neural spine of a Spinosaurid 

Can i ask why that looks like a neural spine of a Spinosaurid?

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18 minutes ago, Troodon said:

Two examples 

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Wow. Thanks for great explain and examples! Really helpful to me. Thanks again Troodon.:wub:

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Yup, Spinosaurid neural spine. And it looks like it has a nasty pathology too. Haven't we seen this specimen on the forum before btw?

I'd even go as far as to say you could label this as Spinosaurus sp. as it looks too long for Baryonichynae, which would rule out Sigilmassasaurus. The widening at on end also is consistent with Spinosaurus aegyptiacus.

 

 

And even if the breaks don't exactly fit. I think from the continuing patterns it's clear these three pieces belong together. And I think it would benefit from some repair to make it a nice display piece.

Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite

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Yes you have lt it was mine and traded so had already done research and got an id back up from here on the forum, also where there are breaks it has signs of water wear but does match up and was found from one location by a local Berber miner from a tunnel he had been digging I can also include the cave gps location if you would like however can't be certain of the layer.

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16 minutes ago, Haravex said:

Yes you have lt it was mine and traded so had already done research and got an id back up from here on the forum, also where there are breaks it has signs of water wear but does match up and was found from one location by a local Berber miner from a tunnel he had been digging I can also include the cave gps location if you would like however can't be certain of the layer.

I apologize for my little knowledge.. And yes, if you tell me the cave gps location, that will be really helpful for labeling. Thanks Haravex.

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I'm on mobile at the moment all the data is at the computer so will message you in a couple of hours when I am home.

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8 minutes ago, Haravex said:

I'm on mobile at the moment all the data is at the computer so will message you in a couple of hours when I am home.

Ok. No problem! Actually South Korea is now 1:28 am so..i shoud go to the bed

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2 hours ago, LordTrilobite said:

Yup, Spinosaurid neural spine. And it looks like it has a nasty pathology too. Haven't we seen this specimen on the forum before btw?

I'd even go as far as to say you could label this as Spinosaurus sp. as it looks too long for Baryonichynae, which would rule out Sigilmassasaurus. The widening at on end also is consistent with Spinosaurus aegyptiacus.

 

 

And even if the breaks don't exactly fit. I think from the continuing patterns it's clear these three pieces belong together. And I think it would benefit from some repair to make it a nice display piece.

Thanks for your advice. I going to upload that fossil on fossil preparation board for help!

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