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29 minutes ago, Wrangellian said:

It's hard to imagine that it would be stubborn, if there is leaf under there and you say there's a separation-?

What direction are you hitting it from?

Both edges- as you can see from the picture below from yesterday,  the red arrows show fine plane lines . The blue arrows show the areas that broke off tonight when I was hitting it with the hammer. The problem with this concretion is that the leaf is not preserved exactly in the middle as is the usual case, thus it is making it hard for a good hammer strike. In most other cases the two halves would split apart with just a slight tap along that plane line.

 

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On 12/18/2018 at 12:59 AM, Wrangellian said:

Have you not tried to hit it from the top or bottom?

 

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You cannot not that, it is wafer thin and any attempt will damage the existing portion on the leaf. Even if I do get it to come off hitting it the way that I usually do, I can almost guarantee that the damage caused may not be fixable.

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I don't mean jamming a blade into the seam/separation between the leaf, but put your tool (like a small chisel or screwdriver) on the rock just above the leaf, without touching the leaf itself, and give it a tap. You've been using a hammer this far!

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2 hours ago, Wrangellian said:

I don't mean jamming a blade into the seam/separation between the leaf, but put your tool (like a small chisel or screwdriver) on the rock just above the leaf, without touching the leaf itself, and give it a tap. You've been using a hammer this far!

Sorry, but that would not work on this piece.

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2 hours ago, Wrangellian said:

I don't mean jamming a blade into the seam/separation between the leaf, but put your tool (like a small chisel or screwdriver) on the rock just above the leaf, without touching the leaf itself, and give it a tap. You've been using a hammer this far!

So I just went downstairs and after about 25 hits, this piece was real stubborn, I finally got it off, her it is.

 

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Enjoyed seeing the latest finds. I think the squirrel has a pretty good gig going...eating peanuts and fossil viewing! Sign me up. 

 

Regards, Chris 

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On 12/18/2018 at 1:44 PM, Nimravis said:

You cannot not that, it is wafer thin and any attempt will damage the existing portion on the leaf. Even if I do get it to come off hitting it the way that I usually do, I can almost guarantee that the damage caused may not be fixable.

On ones like this, I try to insert a pin or dental tool.  Sometimes, that gets it to pop off.

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

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7 hours ago, stats said:

On ones like this, I try to insert a pin or dental tool.  Sometimes, that gets it to pop off.

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

Good idea- this one Piece was very stubborn and did not want to come off, it even left a small piece that did not pop off.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Since I have been out of town, I have not been able “Whack” any concretions open, hopefully I can tomorrow. But in the meantime, here are a couple things that opened by freeze / thaw.

 

Here are a couple things that popped open, nothing special, but I am glad somethings are starting to open.

 

Pecopteris-

 

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Worm-

 

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Lepidostrobophyllum Bract-

 

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Bark- Fern 

 

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I think the whacking was worth it despite the piece being so thin. :)

Sometimes you have to whack it! 

Life's Good!

Tortoise Friend.

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On 1/7/2019 at 2:30 PM, Tidgy's Dad said:

I think the whacking was worth it despite the piece being so thin. :)

Sometimes you have to whack it! 

Thanks- And Adam my back is almost back to the way it should be, I have buckets to get too.

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On 1/8/2019 at 8:25 PM, Nimravis said:

Thanks- And Adam my back is almost back to the way it should be, I have buckets to get too.

 

Get better soon!  Carrying around heavy buckets is probably NOT what the doctor ordered.

 

Cheers,

Rich

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14 hours ago, stats said:

 

Get better soon!  Carrying around heavy buckets is probably NOT what the doctor ordered.

 

Cheers,

Rich

I’m back to normal and was out collecting today at a roadcut in 24 degree weather- I will post a report later tonight or tomorrow.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Well since we received quite a bit of snow Friday night and it was nice and warm outside- NOT- 12 Degrees with a wind chill of -2 degrees, to be honest, it was not really that bad.

 

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Note to self- Do Not Hit Your Thumb With The Rock Hammer When It Is Cold Outside.

 

I went through a number of concretions and did not find much, but here are my finds from today.

 

Neuropteris-

 

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Pecopteris-

 

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Bark-

 

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Coprolite-

 

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Myalinella meeki Bivalves-

 

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2 hours ago, Nimravis said:

Well since we received quite a bit of snow Friday night and it was nice and warm outside- NOT- 12 Degrees with a wind chill of -2 degrees, to be honest, it was not really that bad.

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-2°F (-19°C for our non-American friends) is pretty cold to me. Good finds though! 

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Doesn't time just fly by?

 

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Note to self : Do not hit any part of your anatomy with anything whatever the weather may be doing. ;)

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Life's Good!

Tortoise Friend.

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Since it started out at -11 degrees this morning and now it is 9 degrees, I decided it was better to stay in and work on some none Mazon Creek fossils, but as I was looking through things, I cane across a couple of my favorite pieces of pyrite that I picked up at Pit 11. It was quite common to find pyrite, but I only picked up pieces that were cool looking to me. Here are a few pieces-

 

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21 minutes ago, Nimravis said:

Since it started out at -11 degrees this morning and now it is 9 degrees, I decided it was better to stay in and work on some none Mazon Creek fossils, but as I was looking through things, I cane across a couple of my favorite pieces of pyrite that I picked up at Pit 11. It was quite common to find pyrite, but I only picked up pieces that were cool looking to me. Here are a few pieces-

Pyrite drives me mad. It sticks to some of my nice fossils and can't be removed and many of my old pyrite ammonites from Dorset and seeds from Sheppey have disintegrated. :(

But it can be weird and beautiful too! :)

 

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Life's Good!

Tortoise Friend.

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Pyrite or pywrong?  I've never had a nug disintegrate before.  First one quite cool!

"Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs

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1 hour ago, Innocentx said:

Pyrite or pywrong?  I've never had a nug disintegrate before.  First one quite cool!

I agree and I don't know why it is that way- these pieces have not changed in over 20 years.

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After surviving the Ploar Vortex, a nice 40 degree day with a little drizzle is what I needed to whack open some concretions from “Across from Pit 4”. Nothing special was found today but is still felt good to be swinging Thor’s hammer.

 

Here are some of my finds-

 

My favorite of the day was this double Annularia.

 

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Here are some other finds-

 

Pecopteris

 

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Sub-surface Bark

 

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Neuropteris

 

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Bark

 

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Myalinella meeki bivalve-

 

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Coprolite 

 

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