Asher Hunter Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I found this in a creek bed in New jersey, an amateur fossil site (I don't remember the name, but you could apparently find megaladon teeth at the site.) It is 3.5 inches long, and is a lightweight, hollow fossil. It has two holes and an arch on the larger end of the fossilHere's some pictures (sorry about camera quality, I'm doing this on a kindle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Neat find. @Auspex Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I don't believe Megalodon can be found in NJ. It doesn't take long for modern bones to be colored by the streams in Jersey. I would try the burn test with this item to discount it being a modern bone. Maybe racoon, skunk, or possum. EDIT: Fixed it. What can't be fixed are my fat fingers. 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asher Hunter Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 You're right: It's a bone. Thanks, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: Megaladon Which is spelled “Megalodon,” technically Otodus megalodon or Carcharocles megalodon, depending on your taxonomic viewpoint. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Asher Hunter said: amateur fossil site Big brooks? “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Something tried to cross the road, but it wasn't a chicken. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asher Hunter Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 I don't think the place is big brooks. It was this really obscure place that I can't remember the name of. It was kind of weird, it had two different locations, the park, and the fossil site. I don't know. I can't remember the details. Anyway, I have another thing I need identified. It's another bone, at least, I think, but I have no idea what it is. I found it at a beach in VA, Norfolk area, Chesapeake bay. It's about an inch long, and has a rough surface. It seems old, hardly smells at all. Any idea what it is? (Again, sorry about camera quality.) Here's both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoNoel Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I think people have found C. chubutensis (ancestor to Megalodon) in "Shark River" NJ which has fossils more recent than in Big Brook or Ramanessin Brook. It may be rare but you can apparently find Meg relatives in Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, WhodamanHD said: Which is spelled “Megalodon,” technically Otodus megalodon or Carcharocles megalodon, depending on your taxonomic viewpoint. Thanks, ... Fixed it. Typos happen. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: Thanks, ... Fixed it. Typos happen. No worries, said it as the OP spelled it that way as well. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, PaleoNoel said: It may be rare but you can apparently find Meg relatives in Jersey. You can also find Cretalamna and Otodus (sensu stricto) as well in Big brook edit: minus the plural “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: You can also find Cretalamna and Otodus (sensu stricto) as well in Big brooks Big Brook. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: Big Brook. Touché I have never been there, someday... “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Asher Hunter said: ...It is 3.5 inches long, and is a lightweight, hollow fossil. It has two holes and an arch on the larger end of the fossil... It might be a mammal humerus, but I do not know from what. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asher Hunter Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 The vertebrae: how do I tell if it's a fossil or not? I have found fossils at the beach where I found it, but how do I know if it is one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Asher Hunter said: The vertebrae: how do I tell if it's a fossil or not? I have found fossils at the beach where I found it, but how do I know if it is one? Tap it lightly with a spoon. If it makes a high pitched sound as fine china would it is a fossil. Modern bone will make a sound better described as a tunk. There are exceptions but I think in that area this should work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asher Hunter Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 Think it's bone. The question is, of what? Like I said, it's an inch long, and very old, so old that, when I checked it under a microscope, the surface bone was gone. My little brother thinks it's human, but I disagree. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asher Hunter Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 Also, are there any other methods beside the spoon one? I've heard of others, like the burn test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 @Harry Pristis might be able to narrow it down. If it smells like burned hair it is modern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It won't work on cooked bones though. Or it might have to be burned first. some thing. I don't like that test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asher Hunter Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 Ok. The vertebrae smelled like burnt wood, and the "chicken bone" smelled like rubbing alcohol??? I really don't know. Very confusing. But since they smelled at all, they're probably bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Asher Hunter said: The vertebrae smelled like burnt wood Did you use a match? Could explain this. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asher Hunter Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 Yes. What does that change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Asher Hunter said: Yes. What does that change? The match is wood and it burns so it could contaminate your experiment. Should smell like burnt hair, very foul, if it’s modern. However, this merely indicates the presence of collagen and wouldn’t work on a really old non-fossil bone. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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