visedhercules98 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I think this is some type of coral. Its eight inches in length 1&3/4width the fossil is two tubes that run parrel with each other but still is attached in the middle. Inside the tubes, there are hollow in the center may be for transportation of water and nutrients or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Where was this found? Does not look like a coral. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike from North Queensland Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Unsure what it is but could it be a build up around a vent ? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visedhercules98 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 Location is unknown I was given a random box with random fossils and they said good luck that’s all the information I have on these fossils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 This reminds me of a speleothem. 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Fossildude19 said: This reminds me of a speleothem. I was thinking an iron concretion around a root. 2 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visedhercules98 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 Like a deep oceanic vent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, visedhercules98 said: I think this is some type of coral. Its eight inches in length 1&3/4width the fossil is two tubes that run parrel with each other but still is attached in the middle. Inside the tubes, there are hollow in the center may be for transportation of water and nutrients or something. when you zoom into the first picture, it looks like a some crystals built up inside.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: This reminds me of a speleothem. Yup: stalactite(s). "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, visedhercules98 said: Like a deep oceanic vent No, like what is found in a cavern. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'm on board with speleothem (stalactite or stalacmite). I see no structure suggestive of a coral or sponge. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I was going with Stelagtite before I saw your comments Tim. Yes the void is where water would be traveling through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitbat Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I agree with stalagmite or stalactite. Notice the way it is built up of concentric layers over time (evidenced in the first picture). -Joe Illigitimati non carborundum Fruitbat's PDF Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visedhercules98 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 under further analysis, I agree with the stalagmite/stalactite because of the crystal structure in the interior with the cavern running down to the end of the stem. This meaning that there was somewhat of a steady water flow brings sediment along with it forming the structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 52 minutes ago, ynot said: I was thinking an iron concretion around a root. Rhizolith? the first one looks like one. 1 Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Context is everything and we have none. Could be speleothem or rhizolith or something else..But not sponge I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrophyseter Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I also agree with some form of speleothem. The inside view clearly shows a buildup of crystals in concentric layers. Coral fossil is unlikely because there isn't any diagnostic features of it in the item in question (shape alone is almost never reliable because there have been plenty of instances where ordinary rocks have been coincidentally shaped like a fossil) 5 minutes ago, westcoast said: Context is everything and we have none He was given the item in question by a college professor for an fossil identification internship. The catch is that the fossils he received were not supposed to have been previously identified in any way and their location unrecorded. 1 If you're a fossil nut from Palos Verdes, San Pedro, Redondo Beach, or Torrance, feel free to shoot me a PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: Rhizolith? the first one looks like one. Wait, are both pictures the same piece? Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: Rhizolith? the first one looks like one. Yeah, that is the word I was looking for. But I think speliotherm is the correct id for this piece. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 24 minutes ago, ynot said: Yeah, that is the word I was looking for. But I think speliotherm is the correct id for this piece. Me as well, if they are the same specimen. Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 The multiple concetric layers and the hollow polygonal inside structure visible in the transverse section view suggests Rhizolith, similar to the formation of speleotherms. Maybe I'm wrong and Mason, but usually speleothems have a more rounded hollow inside, in my opinion, but I could be wrong. 4 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 After thinking about this piece, I will stick with a rhizolith. If it were a stalactite the hole in the center would be round and would not be crystal lined. Also the broken ends would show a radiating crystal structure, as it would be a calcite mineral. 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I can see it either way, speleothem or rhizolith. Would a rhizolith qualify as a fossil? Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said: I can see it either way, speleothem or rhizolith. Would a rhizolith qualify as a fossil? Don Depends on your definition of fossil. If it is evidence of a past living thing then yes. Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 4 hours ago, FossilDAWG said: I can see it either way, speleothem or rhizolith. Would a rhizolith qualify as a fossil? Don I am pretty sure it's a stalactite (crystals in the center cavity contraindicate rhizolith, as does the fact that it appears to be a carbonate evaporite, rather than an iron-cemented accretion). A rhizolith would technically be an ichnofossil if it were over 10,000 years old. 2 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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