fossil man Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Me and a friend went to poc on the 31 of August. The week before i had read the post about hundreds of dead fish at poc and it kind of made us wonder. But being in town there could have been lots of reasons. We were betting on the low DO but did not know for sure. But it seemed like that it was keeping people on the forum from going (which it should of me to but...). So we went any way. When we got there there was plent of little fish swimming just find and not one dead one. But there was very few foot prints so that was good. Then on wenseday some had reported that it was low DO so that was good and a sigh of relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil man Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 i was wondering if this was some kind of spine (hopeing anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil man Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 and this i was hoping was a turtle scute or a plastron or something new for my collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil man Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 continued hopefull turtle scute pics this last pic i believe to b a very nice piece of pet wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 not sure about those last pics. the piece you were hoping is turtle doesn't look anything like turtle to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Looks like some good finds. The pet wood almost looks like a jaw section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Looks like some good finds. The pet wood almost looks like a jaw section. That's what I thought too. Can see where the tooth sockets were. Oh, I think that first pic looks like a trigger fish but can't see it well enough to be sure. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 (edited) The main course looks nice... Your "turtle scute" looks to be a fragment of the "outside" of a larger bone. The pattern you see is the worn remains of the cancellous "interior" of the bone. The last pic is what happens to you when you go to POC after a fish kill...maybe. Another pic using the flash might prove otherwise. Edited September 12, 2009 by JohnJ The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Eaton Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Hi Fossil Man, Nice finds! The "spine" could be a dorsal denticle from a ray. If there is no sign of a root broken off I'd be more sure. How big is it? Regarding fish kill, read they installed a dam sometime in the last couple of years. Not really knowing, I bet it brought down the oxygen levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Nice finds, thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil man Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 hey sorry it took so long but here is some, i hope better pics, of the tooth/spine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil man Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 more spine/tooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil man Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 and final tooth/spine pic, hopefully these will be better quality, and result in an id. Thanks for your time and effot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Eaton Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 played with your pic zooming and making a negative I'd be interested to see a bottom view..., or is it just flat or any sign of root structure? I am thinking a ray denticle or internal tooth, i.e. Ischyrhiza sp. but seeing the ridges maybe ptychotrygon http://www.oceansofkansas.com/sharks/Dakota/DK-PTYC4.jpg or maybe cantioscyllium http://www.elasmo.com/genera/pics/cret/sk-g-357.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil man Posted September 23, 2009 Author Share Posted September 23, 2009 played with your pic zooming and making a negative I'd be interested to see a bottom view..., or is it just flat or any sign of root structure? I am thinking a ray denticle or internal tooth, i.e. Ischyrhiza sp. but seeing the ridges maybe ptychotrygon http://www.oceansofkansas.com/sharks/Dakota/DK-PTYC4.jpg or maybe cantioscyllium http://www.elasmo.com/genera/pics/cret/sk-g-357.jpg hey tony No its just flat. When i hole it up to see if it could possibly be a a broke cusp, it just doesnt look right. There is no apparent root structure. Thanks for your time and effort tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielp Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 i was wondering if this was some kind of spine (hopeing anyway) http://www.proctormuseum.us/Books/Upper%20Cretaceous%20North%20Texas/15-UCNT.htm Check this out. I think that this is what you have found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil man Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 hey daniel i looked at the pic but i am just not sure. Thanks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Eaton Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Hi Fossil Man, no prob regarding time to look at this, thnx for posting pics. I have a lot of microfossils that I collected about 10 years ago that I still need to identify. I have a least one dentical that is a lot like your pic but at least 1/3 smaller and with nothing that looks like cusplets. I have read though that some rays did have denticals with cusplets so I bet that is what you have. With no nutrient grove or root structure I don't think it is an actual tooth. This gives you incentive to hunt a lot more and get several more examples ;-) I still need to get a copy of Roger Farish's book http://www.texassharks.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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