dinosaur man Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Are these really ceolophysis teeth from the bull canyon formation I was thinking of buying them I found them on online real cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Please take time to edit your photos so as not to advertise a commercial site. We've mentioned this to you several times already. Also, no need to mention price. Please, name your topics so that people will know what you are looking for. The teeth are obviously real. Their identity is in question. All camera phones have the ability to crop photos. There are also numerous free apps and online editing websites. Please use the tools available to you to follow the Forums guidelines. Thanks. 5 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 These topics may be of some help: http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/88292-coelophysis-tooth/ http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/85762-coelophysis-teeth-diagnostic-features/ Cheers. -Ken 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Topic moved to “Is it Real” subforum. ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Thanks everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 First Coelophysis is not described from the Bull Canyon formation. The attached will provide you info on these teeth, most likely they are not dinosaurian but they would have to be examined closely to make that call. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Thanks troodon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 I read that and I think it might be theropod but for now until I do further research on this I am going to label them Theropod sp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connorp Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, dinosaur man said: I read that and I think it might be theropod but for now until I do further research on this I am going to label them Theropod sp. If they are theropod teeth (which I'm not saying they are), the correct phrasing would be Theropoda indet. The construction you wrote is used when you can identify the genus but not the species. For example, Coelophysis sp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Ok thanks that’s helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Not sure why you believe its theropod show me the scientific evidence to back your assumption 1 hour ago, dinosaur man said: think it might be theropod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 I compared it to your diagram of a Triassic theropod tooth and it matches it has some of the same features Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 I also compared it to some other thropod teeth from New Mexico like the early ceratosaur teeth from New Mexico and its very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I have not seen any publication describing Ceratosaurus teeth from NM. I hope you are not using seller images to provide you information. They are typically wrong when it comes to triassic material why I developed the above post. Little is known or published. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 No troodon im not using seller images and yeah it was hard to find published stuff on Triassic material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 You may keep in mind, that Archosauria are described from that formations (see Troodons Thread above). Those widespread triassic predators have teeth (espec. Rauisuchia), which can be easily misinterpreted as those of Theropods on a very first view, see for example: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Skeletal-reconstructions-of-Batrachotomus-kupferzellensis-A-B-Skull-reconstruction_fig8_252932945 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228489806_A_new_rauisuchian_reptile_Diapsida_Archosauria_from_the_Late_Triassic_of_Poland https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227986140_Braincase_evolution_in_suchian_archosaurs_Reptilia_Diapsida_Evidence_from_the_rauisuchian_Batrachotomus_kupferzellensis http://www.palaeodiversity.org/pdf/08Suppl/10Palaeodiversity_SB_Schoch.pdf So i agree with Troodon, that there's no hard evidence that these teeth belonging to any Theropod at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 So it could be mabye some sort of Dinosauriformes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Andy- Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On the topic of Bull Canyon dinosaurs, this excerpt from TRIASSIC VERTEBRATE PALEONTOLOGY IN NEW MEXICO By (Andrew B. Heckert and Spencer G. Lucas) might interest you: Looking forward to meeting my fellow Singaporean collectors! Do PM me if you are a Singaporean, or an overseas fossil-collector coming here for a holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 hours ago, dinosaur man said: So it could be mabye some sort of Dinosauriformes No, see here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archosauria Rauisuchia are part of the crown-group Avesuchia and there in the group of Crurotarsi.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 Thanks everyone you have been really helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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