NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Anyhow, I will heed advice and take it to the Natural History Museum in Anniston at first opportunity... Meanwhile, what do you guys make of this next one? Found in same field in 1949. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Not seeing a fossil here either, but do take it along for the museum visit. 1 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aurelius Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Also a nodule. Nodules can contain fossils within them, but it depends upon what type of rock it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Another concretion, in my opinion. Again, many concentric layers. However, ... you are convinced of what you have. We are not swayed by the photographic evidence you have provided. I suspect you will not get any agreement from here, in your assessment of your item. You may want to take it to a museum or university and have it looked at by a qualified paleontologist. You might consider contacting Dr. Brian Axsmith . He is very knowledgeable, and accommodating. I wish you the best of luck, in finding an answer to your question. Regards, 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Cool... Appreciate the info guys. Not meaning to come off as argumentative... Just curious and hopeful, I suppose. What can you guys tell me about this next one? For, I am 100% sure it is a fossil lol... Several tiny shells on both sides from Alabama's warm, shallow sea days. Also, can I get info on Native American artifacts here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 These are indeed fossils could you be more specific as to where in Alabama to aid us in identification? 1 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Close up of shell detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Could do with a clearer photo, but that definitely has fossil impressions on it. Looks like bivalves. I expect someone with greater knowledge of your area will be able to give you specific information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Cherokee County, Alabama... Near Floyd County, Georgia line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 While we do have an Artifacts and Relics sub forum, our main focus here is fossils. You might find more experience/expertise in artifacts over at Arrowheadology.com And yes, the last one is a hash plate of fossils. They look like brachiopod imprints. Possibly some species of Rhychonellida. Regards, 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 This is another of my perplexing finds... It looks like an impression of small teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Same piece with "teethprints" other side seems to have fossilized wheat grain or some sort of grass grain... I know photo isn't very clear, but you can make out grain shaped indentions in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I confirm, this is not a fossil. (i meant for your first piece). "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 For the record, you guys did convince me of them being concretions... Did a little research afterwards and I believe they are mainly composed of chert more than likely were cased in sandstone at some point bc of the geology of my area... Please do forgive my ignorance, for the only concretion I have ever found looks like a mini-muffin (pic included)... I'm still debating on cracking it open. What do you guys think? Should I break out the file, chisel and prospector's hammer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 I've also found this trilobite, but idk if it was a concretion because I found it as is... Already open with back half sticking out of the ground. I found it along with several Native American artifacts in an area of about 75 Sq ft. I want to broaden my search area with a group, because there is a lost town of the Coosa Chiefdom somewhere in this area and my honey hole is immediately before (or after, depending on direction) 3 river crossings that were between 2 other towns. Before the Coosa of the Mississippian period, the area was inhabited by pre-mississippian paleo Indians and after the Coosa, the Cherokee and Muskogee Creek lived in the area. If not a settlement, at least trading post... I'm rambling, I apologize... I'm much more enlightened to human history than I am pre-human history lol... It's just the non-manmade stuff that confuses me, guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 I actually have a Clovis point that I found maybe 6 ft from the trilobyte.... If anyone is interested in seeing that... Though, I know it is obviously not as old as the items that you are accustomed to scoping out on here... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bone2stone Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I must agree with my fellow collectors on their assessment of your specimens. The trilobite appears to be a prepped negative. This would be suspect. But I have found fossils in habitat areas before. Many years digging in Texas has brought out some strange stuff the NA peoples dragged back to camp with them. NA peoples were curious too. I know very little of the geology of your area but could you repost the trilobite on separate thread? Otherwise the trilobite guys may never see this specimen. Jess B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 As a concretion it's pretty average. As great grampy's stone turnip it's priceless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Your mini-muffin concretion looks like a Moqui Marble, another type of concretion. Trilobites can sometimes be found in concretions, and your trilobite does appear to be the negative impression from a concretion. This item looks a bit to me like an impression of a high spired gastropod, perhaps. Clearer pictures and something for scale would be helpful. The "grass" on the other side would need better pictures to be identified. Right now, with the quality of the picture, I would say they look like tool marks, rather than impressions, but again, better, close up, well lit, detailed pictures might say otherwise. Also, please put something in your pictures for scale like you did with the trilobite - that is a better picture - holding items tends to create blur, and everyone's hands are different sizes, so it's best not to use hands or fingers as scale items. Also, as mentioned before, it's probably best to post things separately, to get more eyes on them. Regards, 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Will post it to the trilobite thread... My area was covered by a warm, shallow sea until, I believe, 350 million years ago... Found it fairly close to where I found the brachiopods and also have some blastoids somewhere. Meanwhile, can anybody tell me anything about this fossilized bone just by this less than 6 inch segment? It was found within a few miles of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Need pictures of the ends, and other side, please. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 I'm sure it has turned to stone, btw... Could drive a nail with it, makes a distinct sound when tapped with my ring and you can examine pores in this pic... Has been either chewed or carved on each end also. I just can't believe it is hollow and kept it's original shape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Other end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilG Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Other side with visible scrapes or teeth marks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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