The Amateur Paleontologist Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 This is rather interesting - a specimen of the bird Archeorhynchus spathula (STM7-11) from the Lower Cretaceous Jiufotang Formation (northeastern China) has been shown to have probable evidence of preserved lungs Wang, X., O’Connor, J. K., Maina, J. N., Pan, Y., Wang, M., Wang, Y., Zheng, X., & Zhou, Z. (2018). Archaeorhynchus preserving significant soft tissue including probable fossilized lungs. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 201805803. Wang etal 2018 Archaeorhynchus lungs.pdf 2 Opalised fossils are the best: a wonderful mix between paleontology and mineralogy! Q. Where do dinosaurs study? A. At Khaan Academy!... My ResearchGate profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Hi, @auspex Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Wonderful! Perhaps better to say "traces of lungs", though. 2 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amateur Paleontologist Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 @Auspex In all honesty, I actually did consider mentioning 'traces' in my previous post... want me to rectify it? -Christian Opalised fossils are the best: a wonderful mix between paleontology and mineralogy! Q. Where do dinosaurs study? A. At Khaan Academy!... My ResearchGate profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 50 minutes ago, The Amateur Paleontologist said: @Auspex In all honesty, I actually did consider mentioning 'traces' in my previous post... want me to rectify it? -Christian Oh, sorry! I was not being critical of you! I only wanted to reinforce the point for the record. I thank you for posting this terrific discovery. 1 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amateur Paleontologist Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Auspex said: Oh, sorry! I was not being critical of you! I only wanted to reinforce the point for the record. I thank you for posting this terrific discovery. No worries - glad you like the post -Christian Opalised fossils are the best: a wonderful mix between paleontology and mineralogy! Q. Where do dinosaurs study? A. At Khaan Academy!... My ResearchGate profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Auspex said: Perhaps better to say "traces of lungs", though. You lost me. Everything I read in the paper indicates a fossilized lung. Would not "traces of lungs" be something like a cast or impression? Everything is generated through your own will power ~ Ray Bradbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Congratulations to the Chinese for supporting the research of their wonderful fossils. Here is an earlier study of a bird with a really long coiled windpipe: https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2018-06-song-distant-fossil-pheasant-china.amp Song from the distant past, a new fossil pheasant from China preserves a super-elongated windpipe June 1, 2018 Chinese Academy of Sciences 1 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 42 minutes ago, Walt said: Would not "traces of lungs" be something like a cast or impression? The remnants are described as "probable". I believe that the interpretation is a strong one, but that other possibilities have not been ruled out. It is not in contention that this bird had lungs, only that their interpretation of the traces can be accepted as a given. 3 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Auspex said: but that other possibilities have not been ruled out. gotcha! Thanks! Everything is generated through your own will power ~ Ray Bradbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Here is a news article loosely tied to the bird lung topic. https://www.foxnews.com/science/dinosaurs-may-have-had-bird-like-superlungs I found a comment in the article to be very curious though. It said, "These lungs would have kept a continuous stream of oxygen coming in while at the same time using less energy to inflate and deflate the lungs. The dinosaurs needed this oxygen too, as some studies indicate that their air was only 10 to 15 percent oxygen. For comparison, the Earth’s air is 20 percent oxygen today." This statement implies that the dinosaur's muscles and organs were geared to operate in a higher oxygen environment and they needed superlungs to survive. Wouldn't their muscles and organs adapt to the environment they were in, and not some future environment? Everything is generated through your own will power ~ Ray Bradbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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