Woodgrainstone Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Recently cleaned up an Ammonite. From the Albian or Cenomanian (?) Series, Boracho Formation, Culberson County, Texas. I don't have much experience with Ammonites. The HGMS Ammonite book I own is not as helpful as I had hoped. Thank you 11cm across, 9cm tall, less than 2cm thick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) The septa pattern looks similar to Engonoceras sp. Compare with Engonoceras serpintinum on NorthTexasFossils website: http://northtexasfossils.com See this reference that lists many Engonoceras species and references to them: http://paleopolis.rediris.es/cg_archives/CG2010_A08/ Edited December 3, 2020 by DPS Ammonite 4 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPayton Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 You beat me to it @DPS Ammonite! I would definitely agree with Engonoceras as the genus, but since E. serpentinum are almost always pyritized or at the very least extremely small (notice the nickel in the picture from the North Texas Fossils site?), I'll have to lean towards E. pierdenale since they're the variety of Engonoceras that I find most often in limestone formations in central Texas. Ammonites are notoriously hard to ID to the species level, and it's twice as hard when trying to identify Texas ammonites since they're almost always just internal molds of the actual shell. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodgrainstone Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Thank you both so much A genus is all I was really looking for. Is there a decent article or website you know of that can help me to differentiate Texas Ammonites? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas.Dodson Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I'm late but Engonoceras pierdenale seems the most likely based on the prominent sinuous ribs. Most Engonoceras are supposed to have obscure or no ribs and serpentium is smaller as GPayton mentioned. Which ammonite book do you have from HGMS? Texas Cretaceous Ammonites and Nautiloids has a nice table breaking down comparison of Engonoceras species (including size) and also has suture patterns if you really wanted to get down to it. North Texas Fossils like DPS Ammonite listed is a good site I've used from my limited Texas experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodgrainstone Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Thomas, Thanks That is the book I have. Problem for me is that it is maybe too informative. Perhaps it's just me but I would put small representative drawings/pictures of all the genus' listed instead of what they have on pages 32 to 33. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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