non Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Hello, I'm from The Netherlands. (Excuse me if my English isn't perfect) A few years ago I found this grey stone amidst the garden gravel near my house. It was bigger and duller in comparison to the rest of the gravel. When I inspected the stone I discovered that it wasn't so dull after all because on one side it had a small imprint of a star that appeared to be made out of tiny bumps and ridges that extend and surround the star itself in the shape of a circle. I've always been curious to know what it is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 That appears to be the imprint of a crinoid stem segment. 1 6 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Roger was first! Imprint of crinoid columnal facet. Very nice! 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Yes, a very pretty and unusual example too. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombk Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 It could conceivably be the tip of a blastoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 The cast of a tip of a blastoid would not have the vertical walls around like a crinoid columnal. I agree with crinoid impression. 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 In addition to the origin and age of the terrain in which the fossils are found, size is also important for proper identification. I invite you to read my last link in my signature. If you don’t have a rule, print the document I made available and put your fossils on it before making your photos, making sure to leave a box with the apparent size (pedagogical message) Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 If you have some modeling clay you could press it into the cavity for a better idea of what the original looked like. Like @Tidgy's Dad said, it is very unusual. I would love to see how it looked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Top Trilo said: The cast of a tip of a blastoid would not have the vertical walls around like a crinoid columnal. I agree with crinoid impression. It also looks a little like an impression of an edrioasteroid: https://woostergeologists.scotblogs.wooster.edu/2011/07/24/wooster’s-fossil-of-the-week-an-edrioasteroid-upper-ordovician-of-kentucky/ 1 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 My first thought was echinoid, then blastoid. It just doesn't shout crinoid to me. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 Thanks everyone! It does look like it's a crinoid columnal. But I was wondering.. could these be remnants of protrusions that would've run along the central grooves similar to what Arkarua adami has? My dad suspects that the company we bought the gravel from got it shipped to them from Germany where it's taken from their mountains. Because that's usually where it comes from. PS. The pictures aren't set up properly because it took me awhile to get the details in shot. I will try to update them by also incorporating a proper ruler as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, non said: could these be remnants of protrusions that would've run along the central grooves similar to what Arkarua adami has? I doubt that very much, since the stone would have to be Precambrian/Ediacaran and I don't believe there's anything like that in Germany near the Netherlands. 2 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 7 hours ago, non said: could these be remnants of protrusions that would've run along the central grooves similar to what Arkarua adami has? I thought Arkarua was only found in Austrailia. Also notice the triangles are convex in yours and in the illustration whereas the ridge around them is convex in Arkarua but concave in your specimen. If your fossil is an impression of something I still think it would be helpful to make a clay cast from it to get a better idea of what the original looked like. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) Hai,Non zwerfsteen*,echinodermata,most certainly lower paleozoic *erratic crinoid columnals tend to be rare in erratics,BTW* *the opinion of Johannes on that would be intersting,though groetjes Edited October 16, 2021 by doushantuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) There's a possibility it's a Dimerocrinites columnal edit:pic added Edited October 16, 2021 by doushantuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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