Ptychodus04 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 These pics really let me know what I missed in the one day I was at the show! I spent more time talking with current and potential clients than I did looking at fossils. Next year, I'm spending more time on the ground in Tucson... Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Ptychodus04 said: These pics really let me know what I missed in the one day I was at the show! I spent more time talking with current and potential clients than I did looking at fossils. Next year, I'm spending more time on the ground in Tucson... Yeah, I always thought you need three full days to see what you want to look at there. I used to go regularly from the late 80's to about six years ago - not every year during the past twenty but most of them. I know many of the fossil dealers and some of the mineral/jewelry dealers through friends so when I have gone, I spend time talking to a lot of people as well as looking at fossils. The day goes by so fast. You miss a lot of stuff if you're there for only a day or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, siteseer said: Yeah, I always thought you need three full days to see what you want to look at there. I used to go regularly from the late 80's to about six years ago - not every year during the past twenty but most of them. I know many of the fossil dealers and some of the mineral/jewelry dealers through friends so when I have gone, I spend time talking to a lot of people as well as looking at fossils. The day goes by so fast. You miss a lot of stuff if you're there for only a day or two. Sounds like Sainte Marie is quite a bit smaller then (if it weren't obvious from the photographs yet), as there I feel that one day, though on the narrow side, is enough to both hunt for fossils and meet up with befriended dealers and have a talk here and there. Truth be told, I don't spend excessive amounts of time talking and know where to look for the types of fossils I'm interested in, but even if I didn't two full days would definitely still cut it. 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 As always great pictures and a cool report ! Thank you @Troodon ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I'm not sure this has been said in a thread about Tucson over the years, but years ago, as in back in the early 80's/70's or sometime before, all the shows in late January and into early February were wholesale shows. You had to have a tax ID as a dealer to go in a room and buy anything. Dealers bought at these shows to sell at the "main show" in Tucson which happened over a long weekend in the middle of the month. The main show was a huge deal and a real feather in the cap of a dealer if chosen to set up there. You had arrived. When I started going to Tucson in the late 80's, you wanted to go to the shows and then also be in town for the main show. There was a lot of great stuff and the aisles were crowded. The last time I went to the main show was 7-8 years ago. You could roll a bowling ball down any aisle and not hit anyone. What a huge difference! A lot of the people who were there in the 70's have passed away and when dealers at the other shows started selling directly to collectors, you saw fewer highly desirable specimens (fossil or mineral) at the show so fewer people thought it was important to hang out to the end of the show season or fly in just for the main show. Some people still go remembering the old days. The general impression of the main show for a dealer was that there was a waiting list. One of my friends was a dealer who worked a circuit of club shows up and down California along with Denver and Tucson (and the lesser-known September show there) back in the late 80's-late 90's. He got along great with the club officials. They liked that he had cheap stuff for kids and that he was polite and personable. At one point one of the club officials at one of the smaller shows told him he should apply to be a dealer at the main show in Tucson. He said he knew there was a long waiting list for that and that he was "the new kid." She impressed upon him to apply. He applied not expecting anything to happen. He got paperwork in the mail within a couple of weeks and he was set up at the next main show. It turned out if the right people liked you, you got in. It paid to be a nice guy in that situation. I saw a little of the old days back then and knew some of those dealers and collectors who were hunting fossils and minerals before I was born. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 @siteseer Thanks for the flashback. Yep times have changed and the other big change was that the fossil venues/dealers were very close to one another when it was organized by one individual. Much easier to get around. Today each venue manages itself and the dealers are everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 Have been busy at home and not had an opportunity to get down to the show. Not much new with fossils here are a couple of more photos. I saw a couple of the dealers packing up. Looks like a lot a leaving on Sunday. Edmontosaurus Hard to see but a nice Triceratops horn Replica Hypacrosaurus skull Big tyrannosaurid Tooth from Judith River Believe this to be a Humerus from an Anzu wyliei A very poorly done composite of a Spinosaurus hand 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 11:31 AM, LordTrilobite said: Man, that Spinosaur skull is still so weird with it's bizarre upturned snout. I don't believe that is its natural position. Asked the dealer where the original skull came from to make the replica and it's just a composite skull by a collector. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 58 minutes ago, Troodon said: Asked the dealer where the original skull came from to make the replica and it's just a composite skull by a collector. yeah that makes sense. Some parts like the lower jaw look pretty good. But other parts look really quite odd. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Troodon said: @siteseer Thanks for the flashback. Yep times have changed and the other big change was that the fossil venues/dealers were very close to one another when it was organized by one individual. Much easier to get around. Today each venue manages itself and the dealers are everywhere. Yeah, "the strip" still exists but not like it used to. I used to walk from the Desert Inn to the Discovery and find a few specimens along the way. Great times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Here are my final photos from the show taken day 1. Most if not all this material has been sold. It's at the Sports Complex All of the material is from Morocco. Dinosaur mostly from the Kem Kem Group Mostly Spinosaurid turtle skull 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Thats a jurassic sauropod vert Sauropod humerus 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Boxes and boxes of teeth 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phos_01 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 snarge the claw on the second picture looked good, wanted to get that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, Phos_01 said: snarge the claw on the second picture looked good, wanted to get that It was sold quite quickly after the dealer opened up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilhunter21 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 So many fossils! -@fossilhunter21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Troodon said: It was sold quite quickly after the dealer opened up. Are you going to check out the main show? I see it opens on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, siteseer said: Are you going to check out the main show? I see it opens on Thursday. Not planning to go this year, I do it every couple of years. Lots of people, tons of children and hardly any worthwhile fossils. The minerals however are outstanding, some of the best in the world. Nice just to walk around and just drool. You can keep the jewelry although the last one the Smithsonian had a few of their gems think one was the Hope Diamond. (lots of guards around). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Hi Frank the Eryops is absolutely cool. the art work on these are really well drafted I love the Mammoth . I bet they are a pretty penny, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, Bobby Rico said: the art work on these are really well drafted I love the Mammoth . I bet they are a pretty penny, Never asked but yes its art. I also like the Mammoth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 On 2/8/2022 at 1:06 PM, Phos_01 said: snarge the claw on the second picture looked good, wanted to get that Don't despair! It might still show up for sale again somewhere soon. A lot of dealers buy on these fairs as well, and their intention, of course, is to sell on, albeit at a higher price... I've already seen some of the bones in the below photograph pop back up for sale, for instance. And I've personally had the experience of being able to buy various pieces I missed out on at Sainte Marie from the dealers that ended up buying them. Not the happiest of solutions, for sure, but a way to get pieces otherwise considered "lost" to other collections On 2/8/2022 at 12:50 PM, Troodon said: 1 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon said: Don't despair! It might still show up for sale again somewhere soon. A lot of dealers buy on these fairs as well, and their intention, of course, is to sell on, albeit at a higher price... I've already seen some of the bones in the below photograph pop back up for sale, for instance. And I've personally had the experience of being able to buy various pieces I missed out on at Sainte Marie from the dealers that ended up buying them. Not the happiest of solutions, for sure, but a way to get pieces otherwise considered "lost" to other collections Yep the dealer who bought the claw has an online store. Not sure if he's keeping it for his collection or selling it privately or through his store 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diplocaulus Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) I overheard a conversation while visiting the Day's Inn, and heard that a vendor had $10 or $12,000 worth of spino claws stolen Edited February 10, 2022 by Diplocaulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Diplocaulus said: I overheard a conversation while visiting the Day's Inn, and heard that a vendor had $10 or $12,000 worth of spino claws stolen Correct, I indicated that on page 7 of this topic. Worth over what you mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 Good news on the stolen claw. When I spoke with Eric he said only one expensive claw was taken and the cabinet had only one missing . The following comments mention two not sure what thats all about. This was posted by George Winters on FB 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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