Troodon Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, RuMert said: Thank you for the photos, very informative. Concerning that Edmontosaurus hashplate, there are a lot of predator teeth. I understand reptiles could shed teeth many times, but does that mean their teeth were easily removed? Or they bit with such carelessness the teeth were often broken off? I don't think wolves or lions can afford that Thank you Most of them look like shed teeth, and most likely are from different animals considering the density of the plate. Trex had about 60 teeth and they get replaced about every 2 years so they are constantly shedding teeth. Everything about this plate is special so it's difficult to say what conditions created it and the number of teeth found.. It's pretty normal to find Tyrannosaurid teeth in a Hadrosaur bonebed. We have a few examples associated with these deposits the Lance/Hell Creek Formations. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fissiletag Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 10 hours ago, ziggycardon said: Holy! Is that Bawitius materia!? :O Here's the information about the fossil Species: Temnospondyli Amphibian Age: Upper Cretaceous, Cenomanian stage, (~96 Million Years) Location: Taouz, Errachidia Province, South Morocco Formation: Ifezouane Formation, Kem Kem Basin, Red Sandstone Beds Size: 186 mm • 7.32 in Weight 549 g • 19.37 oz Last time I checked it was under study, but it might be for sale now. It's most likely an undescribed species. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, Fissiletag said: Here's the information about the fossil Species: Temnospondyli Amphibian Age: Upper Cretaceous, Cenomanian stage, (~96 Million Years) Location: Taouz, Errachidia Province, South Morocco Formation: Ifezouane Formation, Kem Kem Basin, Red Sandstone Beds Size: 186 mm • 7.32 in Weight 549 g • 19.37 oz Last time I checked it was under study, but it might be for sale now. It's most likely an undescribed species. interesting specimen, we have an upper jaw-part from an animal similar to this. Not enough to say its the same. Incredible thing, I am sure when I would be in Tucson for the moment I would try to buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggycardon Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Fissiletag said: Here's the information about the fossil Species: Temnospondyli Amphibian Age: Upper Cretaceous, Cenomanian stage, (~96 Million Years) Location: Taouz, Errachidia Province, South Morocco Formation: Ifezouane Formation, Kem Kem Basin, Red Sandstone Beds Size: 186 mm • 7.32 in Weight 549 g • 19.37 oz Last time I checked it was under study, but it might be for sale now. It's most likely an undescribed species. I remember this specimen from an vendor website that was going for study, so this must be the same. It has quite a Polypterid look to it, more than an amphibian vibe for me personally. Interested in all things paleontology, geology, zoology, evolution, natural history and science! Professional exotic pet keeper, huge fantasy geek, explorer of the microfossil realm, member of the BVP (Belgian Association for Paleontology), Volunteer prepper at Oertijdmuseum Boxtel. View my collection topic here: The Growing Collection of Ziggycardon My animal collection at the "Members pet" topic Ziggycardon's exploration of the microfossil realm Trips to Eben Emael (Maastrichtian of Belgium) My latest fossil hunt Next project will be a dedicated prepping space. "A mind needs books as a sword needs a whetstone, if it is to keep its edge." - Tyrion Lannister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 High end Jewelry, gems, minerals and trinkets from dealers all around the world make up 80% of the show venues. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantoraptor Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, ziggycardon said: I remember this specimen from an vendor website that was going for study, so this must be the same. It has quite a Polypterid look to it, more than an amphibian vibe for me personally. Agreed with your ID, Temnospondyli were thought to have went extinct about 20 million years before the Kem Kem deposits formed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 Here are some images from the 22nd street show. Again only 3 decent fossil dealers here. Massively long tent mostly trinkets and minerals Some super Arizona Petrified wood Yes every venue has these Chinese fish 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phos_01 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 10:55 PM, Troodon said: This is very cool. I presume these are casts? Love the assemblage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Phos_01 said: This is very cool. I presume these are casts? Love the assemblage Mostly cast but there are some real ones. They typically have an armature supporting the bones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 17 hours ago, ziggycardon said: I remember this specimen from an vendor website that was going for study, so this must be the same. It has quite a Polypterid look to it, more than an amphibian vibe for me personally. I had a close look on the pic and the ones from the net. Think its not a quadruped..., more a fish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 Lots of Spinosaurid material especially vertebrae Croc far right 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 Spinosaurid jaw, composited teeth You can see the lip that distinguished Spinosaurid jaws from Croc. Cervical Spino Ksar Metlili Locality 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 After days of dealers and collectors rummaging through these teeth what remains...boxes and boxes of teeth 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 Been Fun 1 7 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 12:02 AM, Troodon said: Looks cetacean, odontocete? Impressive teeth, though! 3 hours ago, Troodon said: Been Fun Thanks for having taken all that effort to share this with us, Frank! I appreciate it a lot, especially as I've now tried to do something similar for the Sainte Marie fair a couple of years now, but always struggle to find the time and then end up not posting the photographs I have. So, very well done! 2 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phevo Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Troodon said: Been Fun Thank you for taking us along, thoroughly enjoyed it with -20 outside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean L Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Thanks for posting these photos! Hopefully I will be able to go to the show someday and see it in person! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex S. Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Thank you very much beautiful photos and work you put into this. hopefully I'll be able to make it down one year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Troodon said: 7 pleural segments..., I do not think it is 100% real. For my opinion the Asaphids have 8. What do the trilo-enthusiasts say? Edited February 5, 2023 by rocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/3/2023 at 10:44 PM, rocket said: interesting specimen, we have an upper jaw-part from an animal similar to this. Not enough to say its the same. Incredible thing, I am sure when I would be in Tucson for the moment I would try to buy it It's on their website as not for sale and under study. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 59 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said: It's on their website as not for sale and under study. yes, I have seen it. Its there since two years, but I am sure it is fish. So, not interested in, even its an interesting skull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev.s Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 The scale and the diversity of the show are spectacular... thank you for the great photos I've really enjoyed viewing them for the past few days It's a painful thing not being able to attend something like this in person, hope someday I will make the trip to Tucson at least once in a life time Those Spino and Carch teeth in boxes really caught my eye, some bigger ones look quite nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 13 hours ago, rocket said: 7 pleural segments..., I do not think it is 100% real. For my opinion the Asaphids have 8. What do the trilo-enthusiasts say? Specimens like this with less than 8 segments showing are a very common occurrence in the Asaphidae. The cephalon shifted post-mortem and covered the first segment. If you look closely at the posted example above, the second segment is partially obscured as well. In only a few minutes of searching, Google produced numerous Isotelus images with less than 8 segments. Here is another example with a more pronounced telescoping of the cephalon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixpaleosky Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 5:20 PM, LordTrilobite said: Yeah, The first one is a mid caudal spino. The last two are both likely croc. I'm thinking anterior dorsal and mid dorsal. What are the criteria to look to distinguish dino from croc in kem kem verts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Pixpaleosky said: What are the criteria to look to distinguish dino from croc in kem kem verts ? Check this topic out. Lots of comparative analysis by using papers and photos of known specimens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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