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Dolichorhynchops tooth from Kansas?


Alston Gee

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I recently came across a "Dolichorhynchops" tooth listed for sale by a US seller. However, I am unable to personally verify its identity due to my limited knowledge of polycotylid teeth. Based on the provided pictures, the tooth fossil exhibits a strong curvature and appears to have ornamentation solely on its lingual surface. Do these characteristics suggest that it belongs to Dolichorhynchops?

 

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Ask the seller for close-up pics of this tooth. 

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36 minutes ago, Alston Gee said:

curvature

This excludes Dolichorhynchops

 

It is a russellosaurine mosasaur tooth. Probably Tylosaurus

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How did you see the photos ? I don’t see them, the links are broken for me.

 

Coco

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4 hours ago, Coco said:

How did you see the photos ? I don’t see them, the links are broken for me.

 

Same here. Could have to do with the upgrade 🤷‍♂️ However, if you could repost the photographs, we could have another look.

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They may have been seen before the forum switched to its new destination...

 

Coco

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OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

Un Greg...

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20 hours ago, pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon said:

 

Same here. Could have to do with the upgrade 🤷‍♂️ However, if you could repost the photographs, we could have another look.

 

17 hours ago, Coco said:

They may have been seen before the forum switched to its new destination...

 

Coco


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I also got a couple of teeth from this batch, and have included some photographs of three teeth below for comparison:

 

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While not particularly visible in the photographs you posted, the above specimens all have clear carinae, which is something a plesiosaur tooth would not have. They're also much more triangular in shape, rather than conical or subtrihedral, which, again, excludes plesiosaur. Finally, the striae present in ornamentation differ from those you'd encounter on a plesiosaur tooth, which more clearly lie on top of the enamel and have a more triangular cross-section. When I bought them, I was also hoping to get myself some polycotylid teeth. However, ultimately, I ended up classifying them as plioplatecarpine. Below are a couple of photographs of teeth from Dolichorhynchops osborni, so you can tell the difference.

 

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