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Mastodon tusk or something else? No observable Schraeger lines


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Where were these found in Florida?

Can we see pictures of the sides of the first fossil, and the ends of the second?

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2 hours ago, Link7 said:

not sure if they were originally found in Florida - this is where I obtained them...  

 

You obtained them...... in Florida ????

This is tusk material which limits the choices...

I have never seen Mammoth tusk that looks like this.  Note the Schreger cross hatching

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Also Mastodon  with Schreger lines

 

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Here is Gomphothere

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It might be Walrus but unlikely ,  but Bobby will tell us that...

 

I guess I just do not know....

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OK thank you - I obtained them online from a seller in Florida that had picked them up from a local collector.  He thought they were mammoth - but as you and I have both noted, they seem not to have any cross hatch markings.  Seems to be a  "mystery tusk" for now.  Thanks! 

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I strongly suspect this one to be walrus (perhaps Ontocetus emmonsi). But, we really need a photograph of the fractured cross section on this side to tell for sure:

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26 minutes ago, Link7 said:

Boesse,   Did that last picture help - can you identify ?  Thank you....

Needs to be straight on - looking right at it like this one -

 

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OK definitely not walrus! This is something else: walruses do not have a V-shaped acute edge to any of their dentin layers. I suspect this is some kind of gomphothere - there's also a nicely beveled edge, likely from interaction with an upper tusk.

 

Also: please, in the future, include some text explaining which photos go with which specimen and some background - it will prevent headaches on behalf of us who are trying to help you!

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For reference:

Rotate item to change sides.

 

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Have some more detailed pictures to share now - will first show various pictures of the smaller tusk piece - and I did actually notice that this does have cross hatching as shown in pictures.  

 

little tusk end pic.jpg

little tusk side view 2.jpg

little tusk side view.jpg

little tusk side 2.jpg

little tusk end pic 2.jpg

little tusk side 1.jpg

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Here are new pictures of the larger portion of tusk - hoping these will give you better info on which to base an identification? Thanks!

big tusk showing flat angel side.jpg

big tusk end view again.jpg

big tusk end pic.jpg

big tusk end.jpg

big tusk side.jpg

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big tusk side 2.jpg

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