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Keicho - no shoulder blades, no pelvis...?


Ezio Bonsignore

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No shoulder blades or pelvis are visible. Just a matter of presentation/preparation, or someone sort of forgot such annoying details while carving/painting a fake?

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9 minutes ago, Ezio Bonsignore said:

 someone sort of forgot such annoying details while carving/painting a fake?

 

I'd go with this answer. This looks 100% carved and painted and 0% original.

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Fake or not, the presentation of the specimen is the dorsal aspect - the "missing" parts are buried in the matrix. I think it is an actual specimen.

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It could be real, but it IS heavily painted.  I'd pass just for that reason.

The prep is pretty heavy handed, and it's not a great specimen, to begin with.  :unsure:

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2 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

It could be real,

 I am judging by the skull's appearance (check out the teeth), It and the first bit of neck look original. The rest appears paint monkeyed. I too, would pass on such a purchase. This critter is commonly available, so seeking a better piece is the wisest course. 

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Even if it is real (which I'd bet it isn't), the fact that they prepared it so poorly that the hips went 'missing' is a huge red flag.

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Thank you all again for the comments and advice. Just to clarify my point: thanks to this wonderful forum, I have been progressively acquiring (well, I like to think I have) sort of a basic capabiity to identify at least the most blatant signs of possible fakery/manipulation. Just for this very reason, however, I am also acutely aware of the risk of falling into the typical neofite's trap, i.e. relying on my freshly-acquired pseudo-expertise to pass too rush judgements.

In this particular case, I wasn't at all interested in purchasing this keicho (if so). Rather, I needed to ascertain as to whether my assessment, "avoid it!"  was justified. I am thus relieved to see that you share it.

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As snolly50 pointed out, the specimen is in its dorsal position, and so you won't see its pelvis and shoulder blades.  Here is a genuine specimen in its dorsal position, you can see the positive and negative plates.  Just for illustration of how a genuine specimen in its dorsal position looks like.

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