Ezio Bonsignore Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 No shoulder blades or pelvis are visible. Just a matter of presentation/preparation, or someone sort of forgot such annoying details while carving/painting a fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDiggs Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ezio Bonsignore said: someone sort of forgot such annoying details while carving/painting a fake? I'd go with this answer. This looks 100% carved and painted and 0% original. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trilobites_are_awesome Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Carved 100% that is so fake! 1 Cheers! James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Bonsignore Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 My that was fast! Thanks for the warning - the fakery was pretty evident even to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielb Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Run far away it is art work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) Fake or not, the presentation of the specimen is the dorsal aspect - the "missing" parts are buried in the matrix. I think it is an actual specimen. Edited December 12, 2023 by snolly50 2 1 Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 It could be real, but it IS heavily painted. I'd pass just for that reason. The prep is pretty heavy handed, and it's not a great specimen, to begin with. 1 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: It could be real, I am judging by the skull's appearance (check out the teeth), It and the first bit of neck look original. The rest appears paint monkeyed. I too, would pass on such a purchase. This critter is commonly available, so seeking a better piece is the wisest course. 2 2 Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psittacosaur9 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Even if it is real (which I'd bet it isn't), the fact that they prepared it so poorly that the hips went 'missing' is a huge red flag. Edited December 14, 2023 by Psittacosaur9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Bonsignore Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 Thank you all again for the comments and advice. Just to clarify my point: thanks to this wonderful forum, I have been progressively acquiring (well, I like to think I have) sort of a basic capabiity to identify at least the most blatant signs of possible fakery/manipulation. Just for this very reason, however, I am also acutely aware of the risk of falling into the typical neofite's trap, i.e. relying on my freshly-acquired pseudo-expertise to pass too rush judgements. In this particular case, I wasn't at all interested in purchasing this keicho (if so). Rather, I needed to ascertain as to whether my assessment, "avoid it!" was justified. I am thus relieved to see that you share it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhen Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 As snolly50 pointed out, the specimen is in its dorsal position, and so you won't see its pelvis and shoulder blades. Here is a genuine specimen in its dorsal position, you can see the positive and negative plates. Just for illustration of how a genuine specimen in its dorsal position looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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