Shellseeker Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 A great day with a good friend. At the very end , he found a jaw segment with 2 teeth. I do not know what it is...Only have photos I think the Jaw is 33 mm with each tooth about 11-12 mm. I have a number of interesting finds.. and little time to research. 1) A bivalve transformed to Silica 2) Botryoidal bubbles. I guess there is a little Druzy there also. These are just fun to find... 3) A lower left jaw m3... 4) A toe bone.. looks similar to Mastodon, but they can not be this small, can they? 24 x 20x 19 mm 5) A carnassial, maybe a lower m1. Look at the lines in the chewing surface of the 2nd photo. 6) A very unusual tooth or tusk fragment. The hollow core might mean whale or Alligator... Thanks for looking. Any identifications greatly appreciated. Jack 1 10 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielb Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Nice finds! Can’t help with the IDs but maybe @Harry Pristis can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Cole Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Could the toe possibly be holmesina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Balance Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 HSB in number 5? Huh. I thought only horses , Tapir and Rhino were the HSB teeth for our area. I think you told me that 😂 so I have again found a hole in my edumakayshun. 4 certainly looks phalanx ish… 6 Id expect alligator of that size to have wider spacing in the lines. Looks more like the dolphin teeth enamel. So maybe whale is the right direction? Grabbed a pocket full of boytrodial pieces yesterday too. Maybe for once I know where you were!!? 🤫🤫🤫 Jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Hi Jack. I'm not much of a tooth guy, but that is one cool bivalve! RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 11 hours ago, Brandy Cole said: Could the toe possibly be holmesina? Back trying for specific IDs (exact bone from a species), and you have saved me time. Thanks... I need all the help I can get.. I am leaning toward a Lateral right manus cuneiform of Holmesina floridanus...but work to do to nail it down. 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 10 hours ago, Balance said: HSB in number 5? Huh. I thought only horses , Tapir and Rhino were the HSB teeth for our area. I think you told me that 😂 so I have again found a hole in my edumakayshun. 4 certainly looks phalanx ish… 6 Id expect alligator of that size to have wider spacing in the lines. Looks more like the dolphin teeth enamel. So maybe whale is the right direction? Grabbed a pocket full of boytrodial pieces yesterday too. Maybe for once I know where you were!!? 🤫🤫🤫 Jp Jp, I depend on my friends to recall what I once told them as true and remind me when needed. On #5 , would you believe Tapir .sp lower right premolar 2 ? On Number 4, see my response to Brandy Cole On Number 6, I am moving into the Whale Id, BUT the only Large Sperm Whale teeth we have in the Peace River Formation are Kogiopsis and Scaldicetus.. One time I found a whale tooth that did not look like either of those.... The vertical striations on this tooth tip are confusing... "Grabbed a pocket full of boytrodial pieces yesterday too. Maybe for once I know where you were!!? 🤫🤫🤫" It is possible, but have you really identified ALL the possible Botryoidal Chalcedony locations in the Peace River ? 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, RJB said: Hi Jack. I'm not much of a tooth guy, but that is one cool bivalve! RB I Understand... and love finding these seashells that have been fossilized in silica.. They are rare in any forms and this is the first that I have both sides of the Bivalve complete! I recognize the form of this shell and with some effort will be able to identify species.. I did a little jig (which is hard at my age) when this one showed up in the sieve. 2 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Considering I have TWO locations on my book I in fact do think I have the river all figured out. 😊😉🫣 Tapir… always missing roots… interesting Jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 17 hours ago, Shellseeker said: 3) A lower left jaw m3... After investigation, this tooth seems to be a Modern deciduous calf premolar, likely a lower left p4. As it has dried, some of the darker colors disappear... The APL is 21 mm, too small for a juvenile 24 month calf m3. Might have qualified as Antelope m3 if fully fossilized. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 On 2/16/2024 at 9:06 PM, Shellseeker said: A great day with a good friend. At the very end , he found a jaw segment with 2 teeth. I do not know what it is...Only have photos I think the Jaw is 33 mm with each tooth about 11-12 mm. Identification from Richard Hulbert: " The jaw piece with 2 molars is from a raccoon. You will have to use the usual tests to determine if it is a fossil or modern. The darker bone does not look like a mammal to me. Probably carpal or tarsal from a tortoise. Richard " I am please to have these photos and Richard's ID. It will help me to identify Peace River Raccoon molars in the future... 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 On 2/16/2024 at 9:06 PM, Shellseeker said: I have a number of interesting finds.. and little time to research. 1) A bivalve transformed to Silica Sent an email to Roger Portell, Collection Director, Division of Invertebrate Paleontology Florida Museum of Natural History. University of Florida This one will become a donation to the collections at UF. It is Lirophora, the family of Venus clams. I really like having fossils I find become valuable to the scientists. 6 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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