Mostly Bones

[Shellseeker]

I was out hunting yesterday on the Peace River.  I returned to a spot I had hunted last Thursday, Feb 28th, It rained over the weekend.  

Many /most locations were too deep to dig.  I LIKE deep water because it is aerobic exercise for my lower back but I prefer not to be holding my breadth as I did. 

I did not find a large volume of fossils, many were bones, especially Dugong ribs which I tossed back.

Small Shark teeth, Turtle Osteoderms, an Alligator Osteoderms, Deer tine,  Broken Equus tooth, 

One question is that Bovid tooth... It is really nice... I would certainly like it to be Bison.. 

 

I like this Medial Phalanx... I do not think it is Horse,  Might be Tapir...  It is definitely small

 

I found a Carpal that is smaller than I am used to finding for Camelids.  I may indeed check the Tapir carpals.

 

 

Same thing with this Ear Bone,   too small to be Equus  but similar to Equus .  Both Horse and Tapir are Perissodactyla.  I have never identified a Tapir ear bone.

 

Then there were more unusual bones... unusual in the sense that I have no clue..

This bone has articular facets...like a carpal or tarpal,  but the following 2 Photos of the same bone does not look like any carpal I have seen..  Time for me to do a lot of looking 

 

All assistance and suggestions gratefully appreciated...   Jack

 

[Shellseeker]

For Comparison,  Fossil #2 Medial Phalanx. Just an example to indicate Tapirus .sp

 

[Balance]

Just from first impressions, that tooth is massive. Big cow if not bison. Really big. Maybe Babe the blue Ox big. Oh no. Ox aren’t cows… I need sleep. 
 

Found a similar if not same ear bone recently too. Will look for it and post pics if it indeed matches. 
 

Jp

[garyc]

Hey Jack, here’s one that I have had tentatively identified as tapir medial. Mine is more like 38 X 32 mm.

Edited March 7 by garyc

[fossilus]

 

 

Any chance this could be a patella. It's hard to see which way your articular facets go.

 

[Shellseeker]

3 hours ago, fossilus said:

Any chance this could be a patella. It's hard to see which way your articular facets go.

I also am having some problems getting my "eyes" around it.. I thought patella but those facets did not seem to fit...Here are some more views

[Shellseeker]

@J. L. Irizarry

What do you think about the Medial Phalanx, I found last Tuesday... You found a 20 mm version last summer... Do you think that they are similar / the same.  Did you ever get an ID?

[Harry Pristis]

Keep in mind that tapirs come in several sizes.   For comparison:

 

[Shellseeker]

I have had a lot on my plate lately, and although I have not identified most of the bones.. Finding multiple carpals in the same hunt plus a medial phalanx and a petrosal is unusual.  I have been trying to track down many instances of this petrosal over the last 2 years because I had thought it to be from a Tridactyl horse,  because it is so similar to the periotic from Equus. We matched the medial phalanx to Tapir, and so I started thinking,  maybe the small carpal , which I did not recognize also came from Tapir.. 

and I also started thinking that I do not know what a Tapir petrosal looks like... never identified one. Maybe the reason that these small petrosals look like Equus is that  Equus and Tapir are both Perissodactyls. 

I started searching...  and I found a TFF thread that I had just missed,  looking to Identify this petrosal below... https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/100357-please-help-me-id-this-cetacean-petrosal-from-peace-river-fl/

 

and @Boesse replied...

Bobby gave me the answer 4 years ago and I missed the thread.....  but now I am searching for "Perissodactyla petrosal periotic" and I find lots of research papers.  This came from one of them.

 

Looks very similar and size is pretty good,  but I still have some work to do...