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This is from the Neuse River in NC. Eocene and Cretaceous. Scale is mm.  Your thoughts ?Thanks

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I am thinking Archaeolamna kopingensis on this one, however I was debating between it and Carcharias samhammeri.

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Scapanorhynchus.  Probably a juvenile with exaggerated cusplets compared to adult teeth of  the same position.

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6 minutes ago, non-remanié said:

Scapanorhynchus.  Probably a juvenile with exaggerated cusplets compared to adult teeth of  the same position.

 

Wondering what about this tooth tells you Scapanorhynchus. Not that I am disagreeing, I truly have difficulty identifying Cretaceous cusped teeth to some extent. But I honestly did not see Scapanorhynchus in this tooth.

 

If this tooth comes from the site I believe it came from Scapanorhynchus is the most common tooth there, probably close to 50% of the finds.

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24 minutes ago, sixgill pete said:

 

Wondering what about this tooth tells you Scapanorhynchus. Not that I am disagreeing, I truly have difficulty identifying Cretaceous cusped teeth to some extent. But I honestly did not see Scapanorhynchus in this tooth.

 

If this tooth comes from the site I believe it came from Scapanorhynchus is the most common tooth there, probably close to 50% of the finds.

The shape of the cusplets, although perhaps a little disproportionate in size to adults is very much like some laterals.

 

Another feature that I can point to is in pic3.  At the border between the main lingual crown and the root, I can see faint remnants of wrinkles, just at the base.  That's a common feature of laterals and post-lats.  But that feature is often obscured by abrasion and reworking.   It's not obvious in the picture, but that's exactly what it looks like to me.

 

Nutrient groove is correct for Scapanorhynchus and importantly, from Hipockets recent posts, I figured Scapanorhynchus was in play. 

 

Although the root is pretty worn, Id say the root is not the right shape for samhammeri and the cusplets are quite different than archaeolamna.

 

 

 

 

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