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5 hours ago, Monica said:

I like the different colours of the lycopod leaves - very nice! :thumbsu:

I said leaves, but it is really just one that broke into 3 pieces and I decided to still split them.

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15 hours ago, Nimravis said:

Something like this was done many years ago, maybe one of the other Mazon Creek collectors has that info.

Funny, was just looking at a paper on this.  Have a look at http://midamericapaleo.org/content/EXPO/Digests/EXPO_Digest_2012_Final.WEB.pdf.  The paper entitled "The Concretion Conundrum: Current Research at Mazon Creek" by Dolak and McCoy has some of what you want.  Additionally, a larger survey was done in the 1990s by Baird.  Have a look at BAIRD, G., and ANDERSON, J. 1997. Relative abundance of different Mazon Creek organisms. Richardson's Guide to the Fossil Fauna of Mazon Creek. Editors, Shabica & Hay. Northeastern Illinois University. 27-29.  That paper appeared in the Richardson's giude.  There are other studies on this subject.  It's a fascinating subject!  The summary is that jellyfish, specifically Essexella, are very plentiful.

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

 

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17 hours ago, Bobby Rico said:

wonder if it would be interesting  to look at the statistics over a number of nodules to see how many and how much you find of each specimen .

Bobby look at what @stats posted.

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1 hour ago, Nimravis said:

Thanks @stats I figured one of you guys had something.

The funny thing is I was just looking into this.  Weird coincidence...

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

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On 7/2/2020 at 2:16 PM, stats said:

The funny thing is I was just looking into this.  Weird coincidence...

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

I saw this again and realized I had kept stats for the Cinder Ridge site:

 

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Nearly 80% of the concretions contained fossils, which is a VERY GOOD yield. The "duds/blanks" are included as part of the total percentage as well as are the septarians, coprolites and forest floor debris(floor tile). I included all of these as part of "the complete picture".

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Mark.

 

Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them!

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1 hour ago, Mark Kmiecik said:

I saw this again and realized I had kept stats for the Cinder Ridge site:

Floor tile? :default_rofl:

Life's Good!

Tortoise Friend.

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27 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

Floor tile? :default_rofl:

Yeah, takes less time to say than saying forest floor debris, a VERY common find especially when combined with "WOOD, MISC". Coined by an ESCONI member and it stuck. I guess I should have explained that so it didn't confuse anyone. Worth checking for insects and their wings. The "UNIDENTIFIED" includes poorly preserved specimens for the most part, as well as specimens lacking definite structure. A surprisingly productive site for Coprinoscolex ellogimus, in an area of only about 100 x 100 feet for that species. The entire site is about 300 acres.

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Mark.

 

Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them!

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18 hours ago, Mark Kmiecik said:

I saw this again and realized I had kept stats for the Cinder Ridge site:

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Nearly 80% of the concretions contained fossils, which is a VERY GOOD yield. The "duds/blanks" are included as part of the total percentage as well as are the septarians, coprolites and forest floor debris(floor tile). I included all of these as part of "the complete picture".

Wow!  Awesome!  In hindsight, I wish I would have done more of this.

 

The marine fossils like clams, leeches (Coprinoscolex), and fish scales are interesting.  I have collected Pit 2 pretty extensively (when it was open), which is just across Route 55. It has some marine fossils, too.  Shark egg cases and horseshoe crabs are some that some to mind.  Pit 1 and 2 were terrestrial, but close to the water. As you get closer to Pit 11, jellies and other marine fossils get more common.  @Nimravis has some jellies from around Pit 4.  I know there is a paper that describes research (Richardson?) that plotted the shore line by fossils that were collected.  I have it somewhere and will look.

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

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It has been a long time since I have whacked any concretions open, but I did put a few buckets outside for the Winter Freeze / Thaw process. So today I decided to work on some fossils and get some things organized. In the process, I came across a few trays of fossils that I had "Whacked" open in 1998. This was a very good year for me at the location that I designated as "Across From Pit 4", this location is right across the street from Shadow Lakes. If you have followed this post or other posts of mine on Mazon Creek, I mention it often. When I was collecting at this site, there was construction taking place and the area was being dug up. Concretions were everywhere, and my favorite type were plentiful, those are the smaller type of concretions. Today I decided to take a number of pictures of some of the fossils that I found in the trays. There was such a diversity of fossils found at this location from plants, large fish scales, fish, shrimp, worms, clams, pectens, etc. Disregard anything that is identified wrong, names had changed and we did not have the resources for ID’s that we do now, plus back in the day I liked to whack it, cut cardboard, write some info and Elmer's glue the fossil and place it in a tray. Hope you like these-

 

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29 minutes ago, Misha said:

Haven't seen this topic in a while

Those are some beautiful fossils!

Thanks and I know, I have to get back to opening them up.

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I love all of the shrimp and the "Neuropteris stem" in particular - gorgeous!!! :wub:

 

Any idea what that elephant-shaped thing is?

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2 hours ago, Monica said:

I love all of the shrimp and the "Neuropteris stem" in particular - gorgeous!!! :wub:

 

Any idea what that elephant-shaped thing is?

I always love to find those stems. As far as the other piece, I was thinking coprolite, but not sure, thus the added close-up pic, in case someone did. Monica, I have so many unidentified pieces in drawers, that is the issue with MC fossils. If I can’t figure it out or others back then could not, I just leave it with out an ID, which I am fine with.

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1 hour ago, Ruger9a said:

I love them all!!!!!!  You've got some very nice specimens.  Thanks for sharing.

Most are small and they always hold a great specimen if something is inside, and at this site that I use to collect before they put up houses, almost every tiny one contained a fossil. This site was not well known and about 5 people, including myself collected there. The other collectors knew that most of the tiny ones contained Myalinella clams and they had enough, so they did not bother picking up those concretions, so they were all mine to collect- I just wanted fossils.

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That’s a nice collection!

I did a bit of collecting at Pit 4 but never this particular site.

What I find interesting is that there is a portion of Pit 4 along with this site across the street that contain marine (Essex) fauna.

I really like the Maxonova.

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1 hour ago, RCFossils said:

That’s a nice collection!

I did a bit of collecting at Pit 4 but never this particular site.

What I find interesting is that there is a portion of Pit 4 along with this site across the street that contain marine (Essex) fauna.

I really like the Maxonova.

Rob you are correct about the Essex fauna, I found a couple Essexella asherae Jellyfish at this site and I think some of these animals may have come in by store surge. Below is a Essexella that I found there, not the greatest example, and a few other fossils that I just pulled out of a tray that they have been in for a long time.

 

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59 minutes ago, RCFossils said:

I really like the Maxonova.

You think that this is a Mazonova? I have some in my collection, but did not think that this piece was, but you would know. I will have to find what case I put it in and pull it out.

 

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Awesome!  Great to see more specimens!  1998 was indeed a good year!  I wish I would have started a few years earlier...

 

Love the millipede!

 

What was your favorite locality?  

 

Cheers,

Rich

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12 minutes ago, stats said:

Awesome!  Great to see more specimens!  1998 was indeed a good year!  I wish I would have started a few years earlier...

 

Love the millipede!

 

What was your favorite locality?  

 

Cheers,

Rich

You have to love Pit 11, but this location that was across from Shadow Lakes was not very big, but the amount of fossils versus duds was super high, especially with the smaller pieces. What I showed here is hardly anything from what I got out of that location and still probably have concretions from that area to open, but not smaller ones. The highest number of fossils would have to be the Myalinella meeki clams.

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