Ptychodus04 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 7 hours ago, JohnBrewer said: @steelhead9 Yeah, as soon as I’d done the front of the matrix with 5% I hit the back and sides with 25% Paraloid. I do have an air abrader and like your idea. I’d have to import the paleobond as I’m in the U.K. but it does sound a useful thing to have around. Anyway folks i tried Kris’ option 1 using ethanol to remove the glossiness but retain the consolidation properties. I used a paintbrush. Kris I do dissolve Paraloid in ethanol but a low mixes. Takes an age to dissolve but I find keeping a small bottle in my trouser pocket throughout the day (warmth and agitation) helps. I do add a small amount of acetone sometimes too say w/v/v 10% Paraloid/20% acetone and 70% ethanol Try using acetone to remove the Paraloid from the surface rather than ethanol. It will go faster. Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 Alcohol worked just fine Kris John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 hour ago, JohnBrewer said: Alcohol worked just fine Kris Awesome!! Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilshale Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 The gloss on the surface is created by a smooth and reflective polymer layer on the surface. I am not aware of any way to prevent this polymer layer by choosing the solvent. At best, the polymer can be washed off on the surface shortly after application - the polymer that has penetrated the rock will not be dissolved out so quickly - the rock is somewhat solidified. Or it can be removed by air abrasion. Matting agents are added to the laquer formulation (as a filler) to make coatings appear matt. This is a fine-grained material (often fumed silica), which makes the surface rougher and therefore less reflective. 1 Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes (Confucius, 551 BC - 479 BC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 On 6/30/2018 at 1:53 AM, oilshale said: The gloss on the surface is created by a smooth and reflective polymer layer on the surface. I am not aware of any way to prevent this polymer layer by choosing the solvent. I was always told to dissolve PVA in ethanol for a less glossy effect. Maybe the people who told me didn't know what they were talking about. I keep a bulk stock of PVA mixed up so never have felt the need to use alcohol as a solvent. I always wash the surface with acetone to remove the surface polymer if I need to. Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilshale Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Compared to alcohol, acetone has one drawback - It can evaporate too fast. When the solvent evaporates, the surface cools down and moisture will condense. This can cause a whitening or blushing effect. Especially in humid areas, this can be a problem. You will need to have an eye on both humidity and ambient temperature. http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Avoiding_Blush.html You can avoid this blushing by using a solvent with a higher boiling point such as alcohol, methyl ethy ketone (MEK) or methylacetate. Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes (Confucius, 551 BC - 479 BC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 7/2/2018 at 2:58 AM, oilshale said: You can avoid this blushing by using a solvent with a higher boiling point such as alcohol, methyl ethy ketone (MEK) or methylacetate. You can also avoid blushing by not telling dirty jokes to your specimen during preparation... Sorry, couldn't resist. 2 Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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