Max-fossils Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, ricardo said: Rule Pliocene! The Pliocene did indeed have a rather strong influence this time around! Pliocene fossils are generally a little more uncommon than the Pleistocene fossils, so I was happy to find so many rarer specimens! (But the Pleistocene is still the best, no doubt ) 1 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepTimeIsotopes Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Wow, I don’t know how I missed this thread before but that is a very diverse assemblage of Gastropods and a nice big old fish jaw you’ve got there. A great trip report. Each dot is 50,000,000 years: Hadean............Archean..............................Proterozoic.......................................Phanerozoic........... Paleo......Meso....Ceno.. Ꞓ.OSD.C.P.Tr.J.K..Pg.NgQ< You are here Doesn't time just fly by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam86cucv Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Looks like you great day at the beach with your family Max. Looks like a lot of nices finds especially the gastropods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Tahan Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Wow you cashed in! Nice haul and great ID job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 10 hours ago, UtahFossilHunter said: Wow, I don’t know how I missed this thread before but that is a very diverse assemblage of Gastropods and a nice big old fish jaw you’ve got there. A great trip report. Thanks a lot! I shared the thread about 20 hours ago (and only 10 hours before your comment), so I guess I can see how you 'missed' this thread before 1 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 9 hours ago, Adam86cucv said: Looks like you great day at the beach with your family Max. Looks like a lot of nices finds especially the gastropods. Thanks Adam! I too really like the gastropods. Although I generally prefer bivalves, it makes me really happy to sometimes find some slightly rarer stuff 9 hours ago, Al Tahan said: Wow you cashed in! Nice haul and great ID job Thank you! I gotta admit that for some of the gastropods I am not completely sure of the ID, but I think I got most of them correct. I'm much more confident with the bivalves Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Hey Max! It looks as though you hit the gastropod jackpot!!! Congrats on the beautiful and lucky finds!!! Monica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Monica said: Hey Max! It looks as though you hit the gastropod jackpot!!! Congrats on the beautiful and lucky finds!!! Monica Thanks Monica! I did indeed hit the gastropod jackpot, exactly as you said. This doesn't happen often! 1 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Congrats Max on the latest finds! Looks like you'll be busy cataloging for awhile. Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angie Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Wow, that's quite a haul! Never heard of this location before, but great finds! Quite an amount of fish verts too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Plantguy said: Congrats Max on the latest finds! Looks like you'll be busy cataloging for awhile. Regards, Chris Thanks Chris! I haven’t started an official catalogue of my fossils (yet), but I do have a good amount of sorting work to go through (putting species together, making/updating paper labels, making small compartments of the correct size, etc). Long and annoying work, but still rewarding and definitely useful Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Angie said: Wow, that's quite a haul! Never heard of this location before, but great finds! Quite an amount of fish verts too Thanks! I agree, that’s a lot of fish verts indeed! My mother is crazy for fish verts, she loves collecting them. Both her and I were very surprised at the amazing amount of verts we were finding! Although the beach itself is not very new, it’s popularity as a fossil location is quite new. Might be because there was a recent beach filling which brought a lot of fossils, or simply no one had really shared the location before. I definitely recommend a visit there! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 What a day out with the family! Congratulations, very well done! And I am really impressed by your taxonomic skills . There are several Nassarius/Tritia/Hinia species in "my" Miocene, but I am always at a loss assigning them to a species, despite having a perfect revision paper by Harzhauser at hand... Franz Bernhard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 17 hours ago, FranzBernhard said: What a day out with the family! Congratulations, very well done! And I am really impressed by your taxonomic skills . There are serveral Nassarius/Tritia/Hinia species in "my" Miocene, but I am always at a loss assigning them to a species, despite having a perfect revision paper by Harzhauser at hand... Franz Bernhard Thank you Franz! According to WoRMS, quite a few of the Nassarius species have been moved to Tritia (N. reticulatus, N. nitidus, N. pygmaeus, N. incrassatus, etc are all Tritia now). I'm not fully ready to move the genus name yet though, I'm waiting for the 2nd part of 'De Fossiele Schelpen van de Nederlandse Kust' to come out. I have the 1st part (which has all the documented Dutch fossil bivalve, chiton and scaphopod species), and it's the book that I refer to the most when IDing my finds, and I use the same names as that book. The 2nd part will talk about the Dutch fossil gastropods, and I'll change the names accordingly to that book. The book is made by a handful of my favorite paleontologists (and the best ones when it comes to Dutch fossil shells), so I trust it easily While waiting for that book to come out, for now I use a small handbook which shows the most common fossils (all kinds) found on the beaches of Zeeland when IDing gastropods. Although very useful, it doesn't have all the species and doesn't have as much scientific accuracy as the book I'm waiting for. So I often come back on my ID's (in fact, I'm chaging a couple of the species names I put here; look for the edited posts). Gastropod taxonomy is such a difficult thing to do!!! 2 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Thanks for sharing this wonderful hunting trip with us Congrats for finding some great specimens! Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, belemniten said: Thanks for sharing this wonderful hunting trip with us Congrats for finding some great specimens! Thank you Sebastian! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Thanks, Max, for the explanation, you are doing a really good job! 10 minutes ago, Max-fossils said: not fully ready to move the genus name Very wise! Next paper will probably change genus assignment again ! (A local expert calls this "genera-chess", moving species from one genus to another and back every few years, like playing chess with the species...) Franz Bernhard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, FranzBernhard said: Thanks, Max, for the explanation, you are doing a really good job! Very wise! Next paper will probably change genus assignment again ! (A local expert calls this "genera-chess", moving species from one genus to another and back every few years, like playing chess with the species...) Franz Bernhard It's very annoying, isn't it? This game of chess seems endless! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 Here is a full species list of all the things found! I'm including the number of specimens found, and their age for each. (E) = Eemian, Pleistocene (120'000 y) (PL) = Pleistocene, not Eemian (P) = Pliocene (usually late Pliocene, approx 2.5 - 3 my) (N) = anywhere in the Plio-Pleistocene, where a more precise age can't be given (frag.) = incomplete specimen BIVALVES: Acanthocardia tuberculata (1x) (E) Cerastoderma edule, forma major (3x) (PL, ~ 80'000 y) ?Cerastoderma edule (juvenile?)/?Parvicardium exiguum (2x) (E) Mimachlamys varia (1x) (E) Macoma balthica (3x) (E) ?Mactra stultorum plistoneerlandica (frag.) (E) Glycymeris sp (frag.) (N) Laevicardium oblongum crassum (frag.) (E) Mytilus antiquoruum (4x) (frag.) (P) Tridonta borealis (5x) (PL, ~ 80'000 y?) Mya truncata (5x) (frag.) (E) Zirfaea crispata (1x) (frag.) (E) Angulus fabulus (2x) (1x frag.) (E) Ostrea edulis (2x) (E) indet. (frag.) (age unknown) --> I'm thinking it's one of those weird Eocene species that sometimes get mixed in the party... I'll do some more research Corbicula cf fluminalis (1x) (PL) --> freshwater species Spisula subtruncata (2x) (1x frag.) (E) Spisula solida (2x) (E) Spisula elliptica (4x) (E) GASTROPODS: Colus curtus (1x) (frag.) (P) Planorbis planorbis (1x) (N) --> freshwater species Capulus unguis (1x) (frag.) (P) Nucella lapillus (12x) (E) Boreotrophon clathratus (2x) (E) Boreotrophon truncatus (1x) (E) Littorina littorea (3x) (E) Littorinidae indet. (1x) (N) Euspira catena (4x) (3x frag.) (E) Ocenebra erinaceus (6x) (1x frag.) (E) Cytharella substriolata (2x) (P) Epitonium sp. (1x) (E) Nassarius consociatus (4x) (1x frag.) (P) Nassarius incrassatus (14x) (E) Nassarius nitidus (9x) (1x frag.) (E) Nassarius pygmaeus (2x) (E) Amauropsis islandica (3x) (E) indet. (3x) (N) --> I'm still trying to figure out what these little things are, and I'm afraid that they are freshwater species! Aporrhais scaldensis (1x) (frag.) (P) TUBE WORMS: Spirobranchus triqueter (13x) (N) FISH: indet. vertebrae (15x) (1x frag.) (PL) indet. jaw (1x) (frag.) (PL) OTHER VERTEBRATES: indet. bone pieces (2x) (frag.)(N) --> probably mammal Well, that's it! Quite a cool diversity of finds imo If you want any individual photos, I have them available, just let me know. Also, if you wanna know where I got a certain ID from, as in which source, let me know too. Or if you have any other questions, I'm all ears I will signal any edits to the species and/or ages that I make here too. 6 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Max-fossils said: It's very annoying, isn't it? Oh yes, it is! 2 minutes ago, Max-fossils said: This game of chess seems endless! Oh yes, but the intensity depends somewhat on the fossil group. I have started a thread about this "problem" about half a year ago. The winner you can already see in the link above... Franz Bernhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, FranzBernhard said: Oh yes, it is! Oh yes, but the intensity depends somewhat on the fossil group. I have started a thread about this "problem" about half a year ago. The winner you can already see in the link above... Franz Bernhard Wow, crazy thread! Very fun to read too 2 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 WOW- quite the bonanza of shell You found! Congratulations. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 18 hours ago, ynot said: WOW- quite the bonanza of shell You found! Congratulations. Indeed! Thanks Tony Or did Ynot type this? Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, Max-fossils said: Or did Ynot type this? 1 for all and all for 1, We all had a hand in typing the response. Regards, Tony, Ynot, Onyt et al. 2 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, ynot said: Tony, Ynot, Onyt et al. The team of new scientists that published "Studies of the intraspecies differences within the Homo ynotonyius"... 1 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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