FossilDAWG Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Wow!! That came out just fantastic!! Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I think the pedestal was the right choice. What a beauty, and bigger than you thought. Awesome prep as well. Based on the hard sticky matrix, small size, and almost exclusive scribe work, I’d say your prep skills just leveled up! Wow! 1 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleorunner Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 What a great job, it turned out great. Good choice on a pedestal, worthy of a museum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 Been catching up with the prep backlog, which is a lot longer than I thought. First up would be a rare Pseudobasilicus lavrowi. This was in three pieces, and I stupidly glued it all together without plotting where the trilobite was, so I was effectively scribing blind. The shell on these are much thinner and less forgiving than their Asaphus cousins. Initial state and once I finally rediscovered it: 4 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 It turned out to be a sticky-calcitic mess. My first attempt at some restoration was a (thankfully reversible) disaster. The second attempt went a bit better. In the end, not a premium display piece, but an "example of the species" piece. 1 6 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 And finishing up a few other pieces. This was about as far as I felt safe to take this plate of Ceraurus (two species) and starfish. Matrix landscaping and so-so resto on this almost 2 inch Thaleops, too. 11 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KompsFossilsNMinerals Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Great prep Kane! Those bugs came out beautiful, I especially like the Ceraurus plate with the Starfish (stenaster?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 Thanks. I am not absolutely certain, but the starfish seemed similar to Schuchertia stellata to me. 2 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahW24 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Great work! Is the Thaleops from the same location? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 Just now, NoahW24 said: Great work! Is the Thaleops from the same location? Thanks. I'm not sure, but don't think so (I wasn't the person who found it). He did the bulk of the prep, and I purchased it to finish it up. 1 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilNerd Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Great job as always Kane! That little starfish is icing on the trilobite cake! 1 The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. -Bill Nye (The Science Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I'm not a trilo guy but always like to visit here and see what your up too. Some very cool stuff you got here and love the starfish. Some great prep work too. RB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 Been a while since I got the tools going. This one is halfway done. Finished the scribing in a few hours and just need to do some abrasion and landscaping work. I did forget to take a "before" photo. It took some time with hammer and chisel to get the whole thing out of a giant block, and I was unsure if it would be complete with only 3-4 thoracic segments showing. Collected from the Mingan Fm (or equivalent) in Quebec over a week ago. Shaw and Bolton (2011) list it as Illaenus bayfieldi, but I'm not confident that the genus assignment still holds, or if its proper place may be Thaleops. I have company coming this weekend, but I'll finish this up sometime next week. I always have the option to free it entirely from the matrix, but I think I want to keep it on a bit of matrix pedestal. . 9 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Yummy! 1 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnbuckeye Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Kane said: Illaenus bayfieldi, but I'm not confident that the genus assignment still holds, or if its proper place may be Thaleops My understanding from @piranha's response to me (deleted during the computer troubles the forum is having) is that Illaenus is no longer a valid genus. I have a nice Thaleops specimen being prepped and will be picking it up in a few weeks. So seeing your nice specimen has gotten me excited about seeing the final results. Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 That's what I figured, Mike. It was passing strange to see that genus in the work of Shaw and Bolton, but I am more strongly in the Thaleops camp and just reporting from their faunal list of 2011. I am guessing the removal of Illaenus must have happened not long after they published this one: Shaw, F.C., and T.E. Bolton (2011) Ordovician Trilobites from the Romaine and Mingan Formations (Ibexian - Late Whiterockian), Mingan Islands, Quebec. Journal of Paleontology 85.3 406-441. 1 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Tom Bolton died in 1997 so he would not have been aware of Amati and Westrop's revision of Thalops, which was published in 2004. I am speculating that Shaw, who must have been of advanced age himself in 2011, was clearing out some manuscripts that had been in prep for a long time, and didn't update some of the taxonomy. Also it's worth remembering that taxonomic changes are to some extent a matter of opinion, and Shaw might not have agreed with Amati & Westrop (2004). Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 On 11/19/2022 at 8:23 PM, Kane said: And finishing up a few other pieces. This was about as far as I felt safe to take this plate of Ceraurus (two species) and starfish. And orthids! That's a lovely plate, the little starfish is stunning. Nice work. 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said: Tom Bolton died in 1997 so he would not have been aware of Amati and Westrop's revision of Thalops, which was published in 2004. I am speculating that Shaw, who must have been of advanced age himself in 2011, was clearing out some manuscripts that had been in prep for a long time, and didn't update some of the taxonomy. Also it's worth remembering that taxonomic changes are to some extent a matter of opinion, and Shaw might not have agreed with Amati & Westrop (2004). Don The Amati & Westrop revision was in 2004? Feels like yesterday, or I'm getting old. I know a few people who still pound the table about the Nanillaenus/Thaleops issue, to whom I can only say, "publish a rebuttal." ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said: And orthids! That's a lovely plate, the little starfish is stunning. Nice work. Actually two on that plate! And, yes, I prepped out the orthids with you in mind. 1 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Illaenus is still a valid genus. Thaleops laurentiana was erected for specimens previously referred to "Illaenus americanus" Billings, 1859. 4 hours ago, FossilDAWG said: Tom Bolton died in 1997 so he would not have been aware of Amati and Westrop's revision of Thalops, which was published in 2004. I am speculating that Shaw, who must have been of advanced age himself in 2011, was clearing out some manuscripts that had been in prep for a long time, and didn't update some of the taxonomy. Also it's worth remembering that taxonomic changes are to some extent a matter of opinion, and Shaw might not have agreed with Amati & Westrop (2004). Shaw in Shaw & Bolton 2011 cited Amati & Westrop 2004. Both papers recognize Illaenus bayfieldi as a valid taxon that was not synonymized with Thaleops. Amati, L., Westrop, S.R. 2004 A Systematic Revision of Thaleops (Trilobita: Illaenidae) With New Species form the Middle and Late Ordovician of Oklahoma and New York. Journal of Systematic Palaeontology, 2(3):207-256 PDF LINK Shaw, F.C., Bolton, T.E. 2011 Ordovician Trilobites from the Romaine and Mingan Formations (Ibexian-Late Whiterockian), Mingan Islands, Quebec. Journal of Paleontology, 85(3):406-441 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 I’m happy with it. 8 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Yup, nice! 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Very nice @Kane glad to see you're up and prepping again. 1 Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 Thanks, Kris. My next project will be a doozy with plenty of challenges. I might send you a PM for advice! ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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