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Peat Burns

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Ralph @Nimravis generously gave me these Ammonites. I think he bought them at a garage sale.  There was no data with them. I have zero experience with ammonites.  I am hoping someone will be able to put a genus name on one or more of them or even venture a guess as to from where they may have come and what time period.  Does that matrix / assemblage look familiar to anyone? One appears to be a heteromorph. I think I see Inoceramus in there.  Maybe Cretaceous?  Texas?

 

They are all the same color (differences in color between the pieces in the photos is due to different lighting). Scale is in cm/mm.

 

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6 minutes ago, Peat Burns said:

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A species of Scaphites.

 

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Not quite recognizing the matrix as native Texan.

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The Scaphites is something along the lines of Scaphites warreni or similar species.  Possibly Western interior rather than Texas.  Maybe @jpc or @PFOOLEY will recognize these ammonites.

 

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36 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said:

The Scaphites is something along the lines of Scaphites warreni or similar species.  Possibly Western interior rather than Texas.  Maybe @jpc or @PFOOLEY will recognize these ammonites.

 

Don

 

It looks to me like an Upper Middle Turonian Ammonite assemblage...compare with the Prionocyclus wyomingensis zone Ammonoids. There is a good paper on Collignoniceratids of the Western Interior that may be very useful.

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Without knowing the age or location to verify it I would guess the first ones with the closely-spaced ribs were very similar looking to some species of Oxytropidoceras. Too vague? ;)

 

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It looks a lot like our local Frontier Formation (Carlile Fm in eastern WY and SW SD) which is Cenomanian/Turonian.  I agree with PFooley.

 

I see Prionocyclus and Scaphites.  I cannot tell the difference between P wyomingensis and novimexicanus, but the matrix and reservation surely could be from around here, or South Dakota.

 

the paper Pfooley mentioned above should be helpful.  

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16 hours ago, mikeymig said:

A species of Scaphites.

 

 

16 hours ago, Fossildude19 said:

 

15 hours ago, Uncle Siphuncle said:

Not quite recognizing the matrix as native Texan.

 

14 hours ago, FossilDAWG said:

The Scaphites is something along the lines of Scaphites warreni or similar species.  Possibly Western interior rather than Texas.  Maybe @jpc or @PFOOLEY will recognize these ammonites.

 

Don

 

14 hours ago, PFOOLEY said:

 

It looks to me like an Upper Middle Turonian Ammonite assemblage...compare with the Prionocyclus wyomingensis zone Ammonoids. There is a good paper on Collignoniceratids of the Western Interior that may be very useful.

 

11 hours ago, BobWill said:

Without knowing the age or location to verify it I would guess the first ones with the closely-spaced ribs were very similar looking to some species of Oxytropidoceras. Too vague? ;)

 

 

10 hours ago, PFOOLEY said:

 

10 hours ago, jpc said:

It looks a lot like our local Frontier Formation (Carlile Fm in eastern WY and SW SD) which is Cenomanian/Turonian.  I agree with PFooley.

 

I see Prionocyclus and Scaphites.  I

Thank you all for your help.  This will give me something to move forward on.  Looks like I can record them as late Cretaceous. 

 

Thanks again.

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43 minutes ago, grandpa said:

Looks to me like E. WY Pierre Shale Fm. or SW corner of S. Dakota Fox Hills Fm.

Thanks Grandpa.

 

The surface on my material is rust brown / oxidized, but the interior, when cut is dark gray.  I do have some Pierre Shale material, but the ammonites are much better preserved in that, and it lacks the rust color.

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